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Some Ork technology is just that, technology.

Then there are some things that just shouldn't work.


The WAAAAGH fields effects on "technology" would be things like Shock-attack guns or red paint making their vehicles faster.

It also makes the technology work smoothly. Their guns won't jam or blow themselves up when they would have otherwise.

Shootas will work fine in the hands of a human, they will just perform like the pieces of they are.

I agree, the waaagh energy doesn't make the impossible, just the improbable happen.
But in the case of red paint and shokk attack gunz, tthese work because just about every ork in the galaxy believes they do - and that is a helluva lot of waaagh energy to make work

I'm going to go along with Riplikash's opening remarks.

Ork technology actually has to work to exist. However it works better in the hands of an ork who can appreate its intended purpose.

Every race knows that ork sluggas/shootas are loud guns. Any non ork can pick up an ork shoota and provided it has ammunition can fire it at a target and even hit said target with-in their skill level. However (to put it into game terms) orks believe the louder the gun the stronger it is. Thus an ork firing a slugga gets S4, while anyone else would have S3. Because the ork belief is that the louder the better. I imagine Big Shootas to almost be deafening . It would be like willing a 38 to hit with the power of a 45 because you believe that it should hit just as hard.

Ork trukks will never ever run without fuel. Orks can't just will it to work. However, Orks believe that red things do go faster and the red trukk being driven by orks will go faster than the same trukk being driven by guardsmen. And neither will get that trukk to move if it doesn't have any gas in it.

Tadashi wrote:

CalgarsPimpHand wrote:In general, orks know or are good at the things they come programmed with instinctively. I don't think any ork, even an especially skilled Dok, would ever figure out genetic engineering, let alone the basics of medical science, because they don't apply any sort of scientific method to their work, they just do it. Why bother cracking the secrets of cellular biology when you have no real interest in actually healing your fellow orks, or understanding the secrets of life? "Sewing dis bit to dat bit" has worked just fine for the orks since time immemorial and produces hilarious, immediate results.

That's why I call it non-cognitive understanding. They don't think, they just know.

Indeed. They are both the most stupid and (at times, with certain individuals) the smartest in the galaxy.

Which is why good discussions such as these happen!

WAAAAGH!! *thunk* "Hey, I'z made a new shoota!"

SDFarsight wrote:

Tadashi wrote:

CalgarsPimpHand wrote:In general, orks know or are good at the things they come programmed with instinctively. I don't think any ork, even an especially skilled Dok, would ever figure out genetic engineering, let alone the basics of medical science, because they don't apply any sort of scientific method to their work, they just do it. Why bother cracking the secrets of cellular biology when you have no real interest in actually healing your fellow orks, or understanding the secrets of life? "Sewing dis bit to dat bit" has worked just fine for the orks since time immemorial and produces hilarious, immediate results.

That's why I call it non-cognitive understanding. They don't think, they just know.

Indeed. They are both the most stupid and (at times, with certain individuals) the smartest in the galaxy.

While related (if only distantly), I wouldn't call it stupidity. More like a simple-minded and surprisingly effective direct approach to problems.

Or... just good ol' orky know-wotz!

Bobthehero wrote:

Nazgren wrote:An ork gun that fires flawlessly in an orks hands will jam, break and instantly fall apart in the hands of any other species. but nowone else can use theres i'd say

Both false, there's a lot of account of people using Orks guns when their lasgun ran out or when nothing else is avaible.

Even Orks vehicles.

I take those weapons were used against the orks of that particular waaaagh or what ever actually makes those weapons work..? I believe taking 'em out on a different battlefield, against another species brings a bit different results.. So yes, it's not about who uses the weapon, it's about who believes they actually work! And I guess the believing has to do something with waaagh?

In the end it doesn't matter if you're firing the weapon or being fired upon. If it worked a minute ago, with great success, why wouldn't it work now...

pecatus wrote:

Bobthehero wrote:

Nazgren wrote:An ork gun that fires flawlessly in an orks hands will jam, break and instantly fall apart in the hands of any other species. but nowone else can use theres i'd say

Both false, there's a lot of account of people using Orks guns when their lasgun ran out or when nothing else is avaible.

Even Orks vehicles.

I take those weapons were used against the orks of that particular waaaagh or what ever actually makes those weapons work..? I believe taking 'em out on a different battlefield, against another species brings a bit different results.. So yes, it's not about who uses the weapon, it's about who believes they actually work! And I guess the believing has to do something with waaagh?

In the end it doesn't matter if you're firing the weapon or being fired upon. If it worked a minute ago, with great success, why wouldn't it work now...

Because a mek believes it has a bio-trigger that makes the gun detonate whenever a human pulls the trigger?

Nazgren wrote:An ork gun that fires flawlessly in an orks hands will jam, break and instantly fall apart in the hands of any other species. The best way to describe ork tech is "Red ones go fasta". There sheer belief makes there tech work, as they can instantly work out how to use other races technology but nowone else can use theres i'd say there the second most advanced race for there tech, first being the necrons ofc as there building a weapon to reseal the warp and the orks cant really argue with that...

I dont know any necron fluff, What do you mean reseal the warp?

In the end it doesn't matter if you're firing the weapon or being fired upon. If it worked a minute ago, with great success, why wouldn't it work now...

Because a mek believes it has a bio-trigger that makes the gun detonate whenever a human pulls the trigger?

Haha! Yes. That. Triggers. Traps. Thingumybobs! "Lessee. Tis be da trigga to trigga da trigga, 'n wen dat gos, humie go booom!"

While the Imperium sees the orks as stupid warmongering beings that just want to fight with other races or each other, there are some orks that have a higher intellect than the horde. Weirdboys and Mekboys are very intellectual in their own ways.

1. Mekboys = design and build vehicles, weapons, teleportas, salvage ships and hulks. Mechanically they are genius' and technically smart.

2. Weirdboys = are the psycher and intellectuals that also help advise and aid the warboss' with their Waaaaaaggggg!!

3. Warboss = leader of a horde through brute force, intellect, cunning, and sheer deadliness. While not all bosses possess all these traits many do have some of them and are able to manipulate and trick enemies, but also able to gather a large horde of other ork clans to their banner and wreck havoc across the galaxy. Ghazghkull Mad Thraka for example [/color] [/color]

st2me wrote:While the Imperium sees the orks as stupid warmongering beings that just want to fight with other races or each other, there are some orks that have a higher intellect than the horde. Weirdboys and Mekboys are very intellectual in their own ways.

1. Mekboys = design and build vehicles, weapons, teleportas, salvage ships and hulks. Mechanically they are genius' and technically smart.

2. Weirdboys = are the psycher and intellectuals that also help advise and aid the warboss' with their Waaaaaaggggg!!

3. Warboss = leader of a horde through brute force, intellect, cunning, and sheer deadliness. While not all bosses possess all these traits many do have some of them and are able to manipulate and trick enemies, but also able to gather a large horde of other ork clans to their banner and wreck havoc across the galaxy. Ghazghkull Mad Thraka for example [/color] [/color]

This is mainly because of the fact that this is built in genetically, and they do this as a matter of behaviour. They don't, however, have a very good average IQ. (I say average, because G.M.U.Thraka is at the level of an intelligent human (A bit over 105)).

Why is there talk of pyshics with the orks

These are the Orks, they have guns that open up the Warp. Not even the IOM has that kind of weaponry. If a mek thought about it, he might try to make a switch that could turn off gravity, but that would never happen cause he would get bored and change the design on it in the end...

Also I beleive that ork weponry only works when it is by an ork. If you take it away from an ork then it would lose it potency. The longer the distance the weaker the weapon is.

A bullet hitting you is still a bullet, no matter if there's a green magical fairy behind it, maybe it will lose the ork ''buff'' but as long as the components are there are there's bullet the thing will work for anyone, just not as good.

Orks are concerned with war, and only war.

In war, their technology is quite possibly second to none. In other areas of life, they're little better than third world countries in many cases.

Also, more people spreading the misconception that Ork weaponry doesn't work in the hands of non-Orks.

It does. And it has always worked in the hands of non-Orks for as long as Orks have existed. It's more reliable in the hands of Orks, but then again, I'm fairly certian that human technology is less reliable in the hands of non-humans, too, simply because they'd not have the physiology, training, and mindset to use human technology.

Melissia wrote:Orks are concerned with war, and only war.

In war, their technology is quite possibly second to none. In other areas of life, they're little better than third world countries in many cases.

Also, more people spreading the misconception that Ork weaponry doesn't work in the hands of non-Orks.

It does. And it has always worked in the hands of non-Orks for as long as Orks have existed. It's more reliable in the hands of Orks, but then again, I'm fairly certian that human technology is less reliable in the hands of non-humans, too, simply because they'd not have the physiology, training, and mindset to use human technology.

Are you suggesting Orks have a mindset?

Are you ignorant enough to suggest they don't?

Probably