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Tier 2, but true enough, I wasn't thinking he'd stop at the first step. I don't really see the bonus in giving up Vassals for an extra Paladin of the Wall. Even in a tier list, I don't think I'd ever want to run more than 2. There are other 2 point options that are just as good. Wracks+Mechanic, the Book, Gorman, and more that I'm sure others will post on.

Oh, I thought T2 was Vilmon! My bad. I cooked up an harby list a while ago it was something like this:

35 pts
Harby +5p
3 Crusaders 15p (5ea)
Avatar 10p
4 choir 2p
4 choir 2p
Vilmon 3p
3 Palies 6p
Hierophant 2p

Big beaty list

Harbinger
- Revenger
- Crusader
- Crusader
- Heirophant

Paladin x3
High Paladin Vilmon

Choir of Menoth max

Avatar of Menoth

(Should be right on 35 points if model costs in mah noodle are correct)

So the Idea would be screening the harbinger with the crusaders as they moved up the field, the avatar would make a problem of himself, while the choir hung with the harbinger and her battlegroup. The Paladins would all run around with the avatar (nearby at least) to give the annoyance even more teeth, and then harby goes boom >

You're down a point. I'd take two min sized choir so you have redundant for each jack, making them less tasty targets.

Your at 38 pts

Revenger is a light jack and does not give you a points decrease for Tier 4.

Please use this site to make lists!

http://www.forwardkommander.com/

Just select Their tier list in the options.

Harbinger of Menoth
Crusader
Crusader
Templar
Hierophant
Avatar of Menoth
Choir of Menoth (Leader and 3 Grunts)
High Paladin Dartan Vilmon
Paladin of the Order of the Wall
Paladin of the Order of the Wall
Paladin of the Order of the Wall

Had 2 points free, just tossed in a templar in place of a crusader as reach is nice. but thats w/e you want to do

Could always take a 2nd choir for the 2 extra points. or a Guardian if you really want an Arc Node. and still get the tier bonuses.

No he isn't, heavy jacks are 1 point less with T4 Harby and he has the 3 heavies without ranged required for it.

No, it is not a valid Tier list with his 3 heavies.


The harbingers "Battlegroup" Includes 3 or more heavy jacks without ranged weapons.

Avatar is not part of the battlegroup.

Fair nuff.

its a easy mistake to make on it. ive almost done the same thing.

I should have been more specific in my first post pointing it out.

SO, how then, does this list strike your fancies?

Exemplar Kreoss (Cause I have him.... hehe)
- Revenger
- Crusader
- Crusader
- Heirophant

Exemplar Cinerators full group

Exempar Errants full squad w UA (when I get them... hehe)

min Choir of Menoth (same thing... : ( I are poor)

Wait, you had errants the whole time and your friend was complaining about paladins?? Yea he's going to love the errants :p

I think that Kreoss list is more rounded and will play better for you in the long run. You can also easily shuffle around the jacks and try a few different things with it

Dais wrote:Wait, you had errants the whole time and your friend was complaining about paladins??

Ya... about that haha, I edited my list to accurately reflect the models I currently possess