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Melissia wrote:Actually, that itself is inherently psychic in nature, similar to daemon weapons in a sense.

I suppose it was psychic power that created it but they require no expenditure of psychic energy to maintain, the Thousand Sons have left them as guards for vaults for millenia in areas with no warp connection. I was under the impression that blanks cut off a Daemon's connection to the warp and a Psyker's font of power. I didn't think they would banish something like the soul of a rubric marine from the corporeal universe. Otherwise wouldn't the souls of any living person near a blank be banished as well? Same principle. Their soul is contained within a flesh and blood body rather than a ceramite one.

I suppose it was psychic power that created it but they require no expenditure of psychic energy to maintain

And?

Blanks are anathema to normal "positive" souls.

My guess would be that they would cease to function(but otherwise be unharmed)

Sorcerors would be in great pain but wouldn't stop working or anything.

Unless they tried to use their powers on the Blank, in which case, their powers would have zero effect.

Blanks are completely and utterly immune to the effects of psychic power.

Now, if they used telekinesis and lifted a tank up over the blank and dropped it on them, that might work...

Would Blanks be immune to, say, a Zoanthrope's Warp Lance, seeing as it is more "physical" than most psychic attacks?

Yes, definitely.

Blanks are immune to ALL psychic powers. In fact, if the blank was close enough, the zoanthrope woudl be completely and utterly unable to use any form of psychic power at all and would have no connection to the hive mind.

Thanks!

Just about the only way that psychic powers could be used against them is through something like lifting a tank up and dropping it on them or something. And even that would be challenging to accomplish more likely than not, from the interfering effect of the Blank.

I see.

Bad news for my Psychic Seahorse...

Melissia wrote:Just about the only way that psychic powers could be used against them is through something like lifting a tank up and dropping it on them or something. And even that would be challenging to accomplish more likely than not, from the interfering effect of the Blank.

Does the range of a blank's aura extend beyond Bolter range in the fluff?

Also I recall in A Thousand Sons a psyker resorted to just stabbing a blank with a mundane knife repeatedly until she died.

Nitros14 wrote:

Melissia wrote:Just about the only way that psychic powers could be used against them is through something like lifting a tank up and dropping it on them or something. And even that would be challenging to accomplish more likely than not, from the interfering effect of the Blank.

Does the range of a blank's aura extend beyond Bolter range in the fluff?

Also I recall in A Thousand Sons a psyker resorted to just stabbing a blank with a mundane knife repeatedly until she died.

I never said it didn't. It would have no effect on a boltgun anyway, although if the boltgun launched psychic energy, the energy would have zero effect on the psyker.

In case you didn't read my post (which you apparently didn't), I stated, specifically, that I was talking about psychic powers. Blanks are otherwise human and can die from the same things humans can-- but they ARE utterly immune to psychic power, the effects of the warp (Even raw exposure to pure energies of the warp such as being stuck on a ship with a broken Gellar Field has no effect), and the effects of daemonic influence, taint, and power.

Those who are simply resistant to psychic powers aren't Blanks. They're just psychically dense, as it were (see The Assignment),

Melissia wrote:

I never said it didn't. It would have no effect on a boltgun anyway, although if the boltgun launched psychic energy, the energy would have zero effect on the psyker.

In case you didn't read my post (which you apparently didn't), I stated, specifically, that I was talking about psychic powers. Blanks are otherwise human and can die from the same things humans can-- but they ARE utterly immune to psychic power, the effects of the warp (Even raw exposure to pure energies of the warp such as being stuck on a ship with a broken Gellar Field has no effect), and the effects of daemonic influence, taint, and power.

Those who are simply resistant to psychic powers aren't Blanks. They're just psychically dense, as it were (see The Assignment),

Oh I read your post and wasn't going to pursue that topic any further. I was just curious about more physical mundane weapons used on them since I haven't exactly read up on a lot of fluff about blanks. I don't think I implied you said it wouldn't, it wasn't an attack on you

Thanks for the information and the link.

Nitros14 wrote:

Melissia wrote:Just about the only way that psychic powers could be used against them is through something like lifting a tank up and dropping it on them or something. And even that would be challenging to accomplish more likely than not, from the interfering effect of the Blank.

Does the range of a blank's aura extend beyond Bolter range in the fluff?

Also I recall in A Thousand Sons a psyker resorted to just stabbing a blank with a mundane knife repeatedly until she died.

I'm not sure, but I think that was Captain T'kar. Anyway, this is pointless. Everyone knows that blank/pariah abilities have limited range, so just withdraw to a safe distance and take them down with ranged weapons until you can use your powers again.

No, not everyone knows that.

The overwhelming majority of people, including psykers and (as much as they CAN be called people) marines, know absolutely nothing about Blanks.

I doubt most 2k sons have ever even heard of the concept.

I imagine it'd be known to the Thousand Sons since they were attacked by sisters of silence on Prospero and they tend to obsess on knowledge? At least they'd know something that nulls the warp exists if not the exact source of it. Considering the absurd rarity of the gene though I'd agree the vast majority of the galaxy's people (besides the Eldar) have no idea they exist.

Melissia wrote:No, not everyone knows that.

The overwhelming majority of people, including psykers and (as much as they CAN be called people) marines, know absolutely nothing about Blanks.

I doubt most 2k sons have ever even heard of the concept.

2k sons?

Considering that the non rubric Thousand sons were the most powerful sorcerers in the Legion, if not the Imperium at the time, and have since went on to encounter many mysteries in their search for knowledge/power, I'm almost 100% sure they know of blanks.

What if the blanks were the sisters of silence? They were pretty mean and I am guessing that the thousand sons would be in a bit of a pickle when dealing with them.

Melissia wrote:

Nitros14 wrote:

Melissia wrote:Just about the only way that psychic powers could be used against them is through something like lifting a tank up and dropping it on them or something. And even that would be challenging to accomplish more likely than not, from the interfering effect of the Blank.

Does the range of a blank's aura extend beyond Bolter range in the fluff?

Also I recall in A Thousand Sons a psyker resorted to just stabbing a blank with a mundane knife repeatedly until she died.

I never said it didn't. It would have no effect on a boltgun anyway, although if the boltgun launched psychic energy, the energy would have zero effect on the psyker.

In case you didn't read my post (which you apparently didn't), I stated, specifically, that I was talking about psychic powers. Blanks are otherwise human and can die from the same things humans can-- but they ARE utterly immune to psychic power, the effects of the warp (Even raw exposure to pure energies of the warp such as being stuck on a ship with a broken Gellar Field has no effect), and the effects of daemonic influence, taint, and power.

Those who are simply resistant to psychic powers aren't Blanks. They're just psychically dense, as it were (see The Assignment),

Another dumb question I'm afraid. If blanks are completely immune to daemonic influence and power or warp energies, then would daemons be able to do anything at all to them-so, for example, could a Bloodletter still cut them open with its hellblade?

Nitros14 wrote:I think what we've learned from this is that the fluff is wildly inconsistent.

Not all the time...

Squigsquasher wrote:

Melissia wrote:

Nitros14 wrote:

Melissia wrote:Just about the only way that psychic powers could be used against them is through something like lifting a tank up and dropping it on them or something. And even that would be challenging to accomplish more likely than not, from the interfering effect of the Blank.

Does the range of a blank's aura extend beyond Bolter range in the fluff?

Also I recall in A Thousand Sons a psyker resorted to just stabbing a blank with a mundane knife repeatedly until she died.

I never said it didn't. It would have no effect on a boltgun anyway, although if the boltgun launched psychic energy, the energy would have zero effect on the psyker.

In case you didn't read my post (which you apparently didn't), I stated, specifically, that I was talking about psychic powers. Blanks are otherwise human and can die from the same things humans can-- but they ARE utterly immune to psychic power, the effects of the warp (Even raw exposure to pure energies of the warp such as being stuck on a ship with a broken Gellar Field has no effect), and the effects of daemonic influence, taint, and power.

Those who are simply resistant to psychic powers aren't Blanks. They're just psychically dense, as it were (see The Assignment),

Another dumb question I'm afraid. If blanks are completely immune to daemonic influence and power or warp energies, then would daemons be able to do anything at all to them-so, for example, could a Bloodletter still cut them open with its hellblade?

Yes, assuming the Bloodletter didn't lose his connection to reality before he got close enough.

FeistierErmine wrote:It is a little known fact that the mechanicum are currently working on a variant of the Manticore code-named "the blunter" which basically fires a big metal tube lined with suspensors on the interior. They stuff a pariah inside and launch it into any oncoming enemy force which relies heavily on psychic powers.

Rubric marines? taken care of. Zoanthropes? A-sploded. Daemons? Cease to exist.

Then the pariah rides out the battle listening to inspiring imperial hymns or watching the latest holo-dramas while waiting for retrieval once the fores of the Emperor have been vanquished.

Why the sam hell would an experimental version of a Necron want to help the imperials?

I think he means an Untouchable, which are/were occasionally referred to as "pariahs" before Necrons were even a thing. This, of course, in reference to the "wrongness" that other people feel around blanks.

Psienesis wrote:I think he means an Untouchable, which are/were occasionally referred to as "pariahs" before Necrons were even a thing. This, of course, in reference to the "wrongness" that other people feel around blanks.

Oh really?
I thought Pariahs were solely a Necron thing. Good to know.

Pariah simply refers to someone with the Pariah gene, which the Necrons/C'tan planted in humans.

Its what creates Pariahs/Blanks/Untouchables...

Grey Templar wrote:Pariah simply refers to someone with the Pariah gene, which the Necrons/C'tan planted in humans.

Its what creates Pariahs/Blanks/Untouchables...

This is why I stopped paying attention to fluff after 3rd Edition.

Testify wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:Pariah simply refers to someone with the Pariah gene, which the Necrons/C'tan planted in humans.

Its what creates Pariahs/Blanks/Untouchables...

This is why I stopped paying attention to fluff after 3rd Edition.

Fluff before 3rd was a horrible mess for the most part. Its only just now started being remotly consistant.

Grey Templar wrote:

Testify wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:Pariah simply refers to someone with the Pariah gene, which the Necrons/C'tan planted in humans.

Its what creates Pariahs/Blanks/Untouchables...

This is why I stopped paying attention to fluff after 3rd Edition.

Fluff before 3rd was a horrible mess for the most part. Its only just now started being remotly consistant.

Agreed. Let's just hope Ward and Co. don't mess it up before it gets truly interesting.