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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/14 14:13:37
Subject: Some tasty Hasslefree previews: Spec Ops & the gang from Scooby Doo
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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warboss wrote:scipio.au wrote:Kanluwen wrote:The only thing I dislike is on "Hassle".
It's like they wanted him to have the iconic "three-hole" balaclava that has been popularized in films about special operations/counterterrorist forces.
But then decided not to have the nose hole. it makes the small gap for the mouth look...out of place to me.
Just putty the hole up. Most modern operators' balaclavas just seem to have the eyehole anyway.
Just the one? You'd think they'd have two for better depth perception.
I like the take on the zombie apocalypse scooby gang though.
Let me google that for you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/14 14:27:22
Subject: Some tasty Hasslefree previews: Spec Ops & the gang from Scooby Doo
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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SickSix wrote:Hamlet is going to get his other paw put on right? Or is he holding it up because it just got blown off by an IED? WIP.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/16 04:26:53
Subject: Re:Some tasty Hasslefree previews: Spec Ops & the gang from Scooby Doo
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Hmmm, "Armoured Scooby" might just make a nice alternative "CyberMastiff" for my Arbites...
Padre^.
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"All GW will gain is my increased contempt for their business practices." - AesSedai
"Its terrible the way that conversion kit is causing him to buy 2 GW kits... " - Mad4Minis
"GW are hard to parody, as they are sometimes so stupid that the best in comedy couldn't beat them at their own game..." - Paradigm
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/16 04:59:12
Subject: Re:Some tasty Hasslefree previews: Spec Ops & the gang from Scooby Doo
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Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles
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Hamlet's brilliant.  The weapons are a little off though - Hassle's "MP5SD" in particular. It's more of an HK53 with an oddly tapering supressor and a frankenSOPMODesque stock.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/16 05:07:21
Subject: Re:Some tasty Hasslefree previews: Spec Ops & the gang from Scooby Doo
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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I love the not shaggy with the fire ax! Very cute! XD Might have to pick one up to paint.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/16 05:21:12
Subject: Some tasty Hasslefree previews: Spec Ops & the gang from Scooby Doo
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Inspiring Icon Bearer
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Murder Nerd is by far my favorite. Im trying to think of where I could plug her in as a squad leader somewhere.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/16 08:05:28
Subject: Some tasty Hasslefree previews: Spec Ops & the gang from Scooby Doo
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Murder Nerd?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/16 08:14:23
Subject: Re:Some tasty Hasslefree previews: Spec Ops & the gang from Scooby Doo
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Velma..
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 19:59:29
Subject: Re:Some tasty Hasslefree previews: Spec Ops & the gang from Scooby Doo
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 20:00:24
Subject: Some tasty Hasslefree previews: Spec Ops & the gang from Scooby Doo
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Sergeant Spanner?
Is he gonna come with a tank?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 20:35:12
Subject: Re:Some tasty Hasslefree previews: Spec Ops & the gang from Scooby Doo
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Description given was "Super Hero Nemesis of Surgeon Schreklik"
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 21:32:17
Subject: Some tasty Hasslefree previews: Spec Ops & the gang from Scooby Doo
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[DCM]
Illustrator
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I think I'm in on those spec ops dudes. Battlefield 3 miniatures anyone?
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-Aaron
Call For Fire
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 21:33:25
Subject: Some tasty Hasslefree previews: Spec Ops & the gang from Scooby Doo
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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grey_death wrote:I think I'm in on those spec ops dudes. Battlefield 3 miniatures anyone?
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I hate you so much for putting that idea in my head.
I can already guess exactly which set up you're doing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 21:38:49
Subject: Some tasty Hasslefree previews: Spec Ops & the gang from Scooby Doo
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Infiltrating Hawwa'
Through the looking glass
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Now that I see the pieces on the sprue, I'm curious about if they can they be attached to IG models. They look similar enough and I think those gun hands would make smashing stormtroopers/vets/whatever
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“Sometimes I can hear my bones straining under the weight of all the lives I'm not living.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/27 10:09:00
Subject: Re:Some tasty Hasslefree previews: Spec Ops & the gang from Scooby Doo
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/27 11:53:49
Subject: Re:Some tasty Hasslefree previews: Spec Ops & Sgt. Spanner
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Nice detail, and the movement and posing of the feet is fantastic, very effective.....
BUT...
Why on earth would SF operators be carrying their rifles / SMG's with the stock over the shoulder, and not tucked into the shoulder ready to fire?
Methinks something wrong here...
Padre^.
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"All GW will gain is my increased contempt for their business practices." - AesSedai
"Its terrible the way that conversion kit is causing him to buy 2 GW kits... " - Mad4Minis
"GW are hard to parody, as they are sometimes so stupid that the best in comedy couldn't beat them at their own game..." - Paradigm
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/27 12:19:48
Subject: Some tasty Hasslefree previews: Spec Ops & Sgt. Spanner
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These are so Battlefield 3, I love it! I just wish my PS3 was alive so I could play...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/27 12:35:11
Subject: Some tasty Hasslefree previews: Spec Ops & Sgt. Spanner
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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Padre brings up a good point. However these are toys. I am willing to forgive some inaccuracies due to the high quality of the casts, posing, and gear load outs.
I think it says something about the state of modern miniatures when we start criticizing what brand sunglasses a figure has or how his boots are laced.
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SickSix's Silver Skull WIP thread
My Youtube Channel
JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking. = Epic First Post.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/27 12:50:16
Subject: Re:Some tasty Hasslefree previews: Spec Ops & Sgt. Spanner
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[DCM]
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Padre wrote:Nice detail, and the movement and posing of the feet is fantastic, very effective.....
BUT...
Why on earth would SF operators be carrying their rifles / SMG's with the stock over the shoulder, and not tucked into the shoulder ready to fire?
Methinks something wrong here...
Padre^.
Youthinks a bit too much Realworldy, I think!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/27 19:10:52
Subject: Re:Some tasty Hasslefree previews: Spec Ops & Sgt. Spanner
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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Why on earth would SF operators be carrying their rifles / SMG's with the stock over the shoulder, and not tucked into the shoulder ready to fire?
Three reasons.
1. When patrolling for extended periods of time having your rifle pulled into your shoulder gets extremely tiring because your arms are holding the rifle, not your body.
2. When moving at the double if your rifle is tucked into your arm and you trip there's a good chance you'll dislocate your arm if the rifle jams into the dirt.
3. It keeps the rifle "unlocked" from your body making it easier to move the rifle and your body to engage targets that are not in front of you.
When I was overseas the only time I would actively pull my rifle to my shoulder was when i was aiming to fire, or anticipating firing very soon, similar to being in over watch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/28 08:51:43
Subject: Re:Hasslefree thread - SUMMER BONUS TIME
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/30 19:48:19
Subject: Re:Hasslefree news & releases - SUMMER BONUS TIME
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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From the Hasslefree facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/notes/hasslefree-minis/the-cost-to-production-metal-minis/451699728195643
Something that I have always been happy to do throughout our time as HF is to share with the customer how much things cost. This isnt something that i do to make you 'feel sorry' for us, i genuinely think that the majority of customers don't realise how much it costs to release figures.
The advantage to having an in-house sculptor (Kev) is that technically I don't have to pay him for what he makes, i just smile sweetly at him, buy him some more beer and encourage him to play Battlefield so he stays happy and compliant to my wishes! Every now and then i slip him some wages if he is moaning... lol! This does mean however that we are able to produce a greater quantity of figures overall than a lot of companies who have to commission sculptors to work for them. For the sake of this note i will include what Kev would charge for making each figure within the calculations.
Firstly we have a brief exercise in the production methods we use.
1: Kev makes a green. It either then goes to be made into transitional metal castings (a) or it goes straight into a rubber mould (b)....
a) Transitional resin is a resin that can be put into a rubber mould and vulcanised to form the cavitities out of which the metal figures are made via spincasting of hot pewter. Castings made by this method are usually of a higher quality than
those that are made from metal masters as there is one less stage of vulcanisation and therefore no loss of detail.
b) If a green goes into a rubber mould to be vulcanised, the castings from this mould are used as masters and go into another mould to make a production mould.
Costings, okay here we go.
Take a look at the image below. I have picked one of the cheapest moulds, the figures are simple and single-piece.
Three figures are shown. Kevs freelance rate for these would be approx £1000. Two moulds were needed for the resins which comes to £40. 14 transitional resin castings comes to £70. Now add the VAT on top of that and you the picture you see represents a basic outlay of £1332.
Next stage is posting to the caster. Thats about £10
The caster charges £60 plus vat (£72) for the mould.
We need an initial 30 spins of this mould, the green will take a few spins to 'bed in' before we can get 8 good masters for sending off to the next production mould. This will cost us about £6 per spin giving us an outlay at this stage for castings of approx £180 plus VAT (£216).
Shipping of these castings back to us is about another £10
So outlay is now £1332 + £10 + £72 + £216 + £10 = £1640
What do we have to show for that?
We then have about 200 production castings of Hayden (b) and 200 castings of Hayden (c) to sell. Each of these figures will retail at £3.34 plus VAT (£4.00)
Immediate revenue generated if all figures are sold at RRP (with VAT added on) = £4.00 x 400 = £1600
However not all figures are sold at RRP. So we have almost covered our initial outlay if we sell at this amount.
but we don't.
Uk and Eu webstore sales we get £4.00 for each of them (but dont forget we have to give 66p of that to the government for UK VAT)
Non-Eu sales webstore sales we get £3.34 for each of them
UK and EU sales to a retailer we get 60% of £4.00 ( they get 40% discount) so we get £2.40 for each figure
Non-Eu sales to a retailer we get 60% of £3.34 (they get 40% discount) so we get £2.00 for each of them
UK and EU sales to a distributor we get 50% of £4.00 ( they get 50% discount) so we get £2.00 per figure
Non-Eu sales to a distributor we get 50% of £3.34 (they get 50% discount) so we get £1.67 per figure.
Some distributors want 60% or 65% discount, we dont do that! 50% almost kills us. The above figures show why we don't use a lot of retailers, we couldnt afford to really.
*******
The extra sting in the tail not yet factored into this is running costs including the workshop, Alarm system, internet, phone, staff wages, the further stages of production to sale which is quality control, bagging, bases, labels, plus cost of sale (web fees, secure server, webhosting, webmaster, terminal hire, charges levied by the bank, Corporation tax, PAYE, Card processing charges, paypal charges, packaging....the list goes on and on. All of that has to come out of the revenue generated by the sales of the figures. Even a popular-selling figure may take a while to recoup the initial investment into production.
So next time you bemoan a 3p or 10p rise to a small manufacturer..........maybe you will remember this note!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/30 20:02:04
Subject: Re:Some tasty Hasslefree previews: Spec Ops & Sgt. Spanner
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Daggermaw wrote:Why on earth would SF operators be carrying their rifles / SMG's with the stock over the shoulder, and not tucked into the shoulder ready to fire?
Three reasons.
1. When patrolling for extended periods of time having your rifle pulled into your shoulder gets extremely tiring because your arms are holding the rifle, not your body.
2. When moving at the double if your rifle is tucked into your arm and you trip there's a good chance you'll dislocate your arm if the rifle jams into the dirt.
3. It keeps the rifle "unlocked" from your body making it easier to move the rifle and your body to engage targets that are not in front of you.
When I was overseas the only time I would actively pull my rifle to my shoulder was when i was aiming to fire, or anticipating firing very soon, similar to being in over watch.
Quoted for the truth. More than once did I watch someone's gun fly wildly when it was snagged on underbrush during maneuvers, or have someone who was a bit too anxious deal with raw shoulders at the end of the day.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/30 20:59:11
Subject: Hasslefree news & releases - SUMMER BONUS TIME
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Kelne
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Those "Ghost" dudes are indeed gonna be good for Ariadna in Infinity, shame they don't match my Haqqislam.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/01 07:55:33
Subject: Hasslefree news & releases - SUMMER BONUS TIME
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry
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Sgt Spanner = Captain Hammer?
I might have to get one for the wife and try to adjust the face to be Nathan Fillion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/01 10:13:24
Subject: Re:Hasslefree news & releases - SUMMER BONUS TIME
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/07 14:52:10
Subject: Re:Hasslefree news & releases - SUMMER BONUS TIME
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 09:44:33
Subject: Re:Hasslefree news & releases - SUMMER BONUS TIME
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Another preview:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 11:03:10
Subject: Re:Hasslefree news & releases - SUMMER BONUS TIME
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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"DRAKE, WE ARE LEAVING!" Love it!!!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/09/10 20:06:11
"All GW will gain is my increased contempt for their business practices." - AesSedai
"Its terrible the way that conversion kit is causing him to buy 2 GW kits... " - Mad4Minis
"GW are hard to parody, as they are sometimes so stupid that the best in comedy couldn't beat them at their own game..." - Paradigm
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 11:03:35
Subject: Hasslefree news & releases - SUMMER BONUS TIME
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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For that quote to work though, he'd need a flamethrower.
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