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Much of the evidence suggesting these are fake don't hold up. As was pointed out, Kasrkin Sgts could take storm bolters in 3rd ed. People are pointing to recognizable components as proof these are fake. Why does that mean fake? Do you think GW sculpters create a brand new lasgun sculpt for every guardsmen they do? Have you ever gone to Reaper Miniature's greens page and noticed a green carrying a metal weapon? Sculpters use pre-existing components like weapons as shortcuts and to maintain consistency. It's pretty common for GW to release 2 or 3 models that are clearly just upsculpted versions of each other, ie 2 Seraphim Sister Superiors but the second has a helmet and different weapons. Someone pointed out that it wouldn't say "Cadian" on the tab, why? I have a female in power armor that says "Space Marine" on the tab and it is a genuine 40k mini. Think of all the figures you've had that say slightly off things on the tabs. Besides it said Cadian, it's not like it said "Chaos Lord" or "Land Raider." These could be totaly fake, but there really isn't any evidence to suggest so.

You would also have to be daft to pay that much money because this Kasrkin has a grenade.

Edit: After looking through his other listings he had quite a few models listed as unreleased including the aformentioned Squat Cyber-Slayer http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unreleased-Warhammer-40k-second-edition-squat-cyberslayer-28mm-metal-figure-rare-/251101851609?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item3a76d62fd9. I also found that Kasrnkin Sgt with Shotgun that was mentioned http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unreleased-Games-Workshop-Warhammer-40k-Imperial-Guard-28mm-resin-figure-/350579457047?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item51a029fc17. I saw a Zoat and a whole host of RT models. Lots of cool stuff really. I say he's legit.

Do you think GW sculpters create a brand new lasgun sculpt for every guardsmen they do?

In fact they dont even sculpt new legs or torso for space marines

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/001ibc.jpg/

"I says he's legit"

They are .

In April the same (or identical?) models were sold along with two others (a Kasrkin Sergeant with powerfist and a Kasrkin with Grenade Launcher and Meltabomb):

http://www.ebay.de/itm/warhammer-40k-imperial-guard-unreleased-kasrkin-sergeant-rare-/110857639213?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cfa1552d
http://www.ebay.de/itm/warhammer-40k-imperial-guard-unreleased-kasrkin-grenade-laucher-rare-/110857640493?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cfa15a2d
http://www.ebay.de/itm/warhammer-40k-imperial-guard-unreleased-kasrkin-rare-/110857642285?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cfa1612d
http://www.ebay.de/itm/warhammer-40k-imperial-guard-unreleased-kasrkin-storm-bolter-rare-/110857641723?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cfa15efb

They were described as resin masters in those auctions.

Same models, yes, but it's not the one steve are selling now. As I did say, an COMPLETE squad have been sculpted, 7 or 8 DIFFERENT kasrkin.

Ovion wrote:If you look through his other items, there's a lot of dodgy looking listings, and he 'just so happens' to have a dozen or so unreleased resin 'masters' that he's selling! xD

It's also £75 + £7 shipping (for a single mini without the base). There's one that's over £100 including the shipping.

Let us know what happens when you contact GW.

Whether they are legitimate or not, the deed is done.
I contacted GW by telephone this morning and I was put through to a very helpful man, called Ryan. I explained this case to him and he then told me an Email address that I then attached links and picture files to. I stated that we still aren't certain of their legitimacy, as it is evident from this forum. I explained all of the evidence that we had compiled. I've literally, just sent that Email, so I'm not sure how it is all going to conclude....

Joshua Von Wolkestadt wrote:

Ovion wrote:If you look through his other items, there's a lot of dodgy looking listings, and he 'just so happens' to have a dozen or so unreleased resin 'masters' that he's selling! xD

It's also £75 + £7 shipping (for a single mini without the base). There's one that's over £100 including the shipping.

Let us know what happens when you contact GW.

Whether they are legitimate or not, the deed is done.
I contacted GW by telephone this morning and I was put through to a very helpful man, called Ryan. I explained this case to him and he then told me an Email address that I then attached links and picture files to. I stated that we still aren't certain of their legitimacy, as it is evident from this forum. I explained all of the evidence that we had compiled. I've literally, just sent that Email, so I'm not sure how it is all going to conclude....

Just by curiosity .... Why ?
Diaz even confirmed that they are unreleased. From what I can see, you just want to see some trouble for a seller. (it's just an C and D letter,I did receive one some times ago, and I'm still selling unreleased stuff .... it's just annoying. Waste of time. )

Oliveraso_74 wrote:

Joshua Von Wolkestadt wrote:

Ovion wrote:If you look through his other items, there's a lot of dodgy looking listings, and he 'just so happens' to have a dozen or so unreleased resin 'masters' that he's selling! xD

It's also £75 + £7 shipping (for a single mini without the base). There's one that's over £100 including the shipping.

Let us know what happens when you contact GW.

Whether they are legitimate or not, the deed is done.
I contacted GW by telephone this morning and I was put through to a very helpful man, called Ryan. I explained this case to him and he then told me an Email address that I then attached links and picture files to. I stated that we still aren't certain of their legitimacy, as it is evident from this forum. I explained all of the evidence that we had compiled. I've literally, just sent that Email, so I'm not sure how it is all going to conclude....

Just by curiosity .... Why ?
Diaz even confirmed that they are unreleased. From what I can see, you just want to see some trouble for a seller. (it's just an C and D letter,I did receive one some times ago, and I'm still selling unreleased stuff .... it's just annoying. Waste of time. )

Okay, I did not mean it with any malicious intent. Many of us on the forum were unsure of the legitimacy of these models. The Email was sent as a way of putting our minds at rest. Look, I'm sure that if GW see these miniatures and recognise the fact that they are ACTUAL unreleased miniatures, they would leave the seller alone.

I hope you can appreciate that and if the seller is found to be selling them without breaching any guidelines, I apologise for causing the trouble.

I only registered upon the forum yesterday, and tbh, I did not expect any of this commotion to occur.

Oliveraso_74 wrote:
Just by curiosity .... Why ?
Diaz even confirmed that they are unreleased. From what I can see, you just want to see some trouble for a seller. (it's just an C and D letter,I did receive one some times ago, and I'm still selling unreleased stuff .... it's just annoying. Waste of time. )

If they're unreleased, why has the guy been able to sell multiples of them? When has Diaz confirmed that these are his unreleased sculpts? I'd love to see a source on that, and it would probably change my tune on the matter.

All that aside, these are very cool models, but not 75+ GBP for a possible forgery cool.

And if the resin masters were sold in April, how many models were cast from them before that?

I'm a casting noob so maybe I just don't get it...

Joshua, before sent an email to GW, have you sent an email to the seller ?
No ?

the fact that they are ACTUAL unreleased miniatures, they would leave the seller alone.

....Wow.
Well, they will just sent an cease and desist letter to the seller. That's not an problem for the seller.
And ask where he have been able to find them.
Some people can be shoot and lose their jobs .... because of you.
Congratulation guy.

why has the guy been able to sell multiples of them?

He didn't sell multiples of them. Totof (april seller) ; get some and sell them ; and steve get some and sell them. But they are from different sources.

About source ..... well, they are unreleased miniatures, it's normal that it's hard to have information about them.You should join the CCM yahoogroup if you are interested in knowledge about unreleased stuff, where you can find steve. totof, and me.

Oliveraso_74 wrote:Joshua, before sent an email to GW, have you sent an email to the seller ?
No ?

the fact that they are ACTUAL unreleased miniatures, they would leave the seller alone.

....Wow.
Well, they will just sent an cease and desist letter to the seller. That's not an problem for the seller.
And ask where he have been able to find them.
Some people can be shoot and lose their jobs .... because of you.
Congratulation guy.

why has the guy been able to sell multiples of them?

He didn't sell multiples of them. Totof (april seller) ; get some and sell them ; and steve get some and sell them. But they are from different sources.

About source ..... well, they are unreleased miniatures, it's normal that it's hard to have information about them.You should join the CCM yahoogroup if you are interested in knowledge about unreleased stuff, where you can find steve. totof, and me.

Look, you have to understand. I DID NOT send an Email strictly stating that they were fakes. I sent an Email, requesting information about their legitimacy.

Some people can be shoot and lose their jobs .... because of you.

That's a bit harsh is it not? I understand that you may know more than me about such matters but many of us here, discussing this topic, were just concerned. I do not see why you state that it is people like me that get people sacked from their jobs, when their were many others that shared my view and would have done the same. I appreciate your point of view but before you start pointing fingers, read the other comments. I do not intend to cause any more arguments.

Why dose him reporting it matter to you, are you planing on buying them. If there fakes GW will do something if not the can't do anything. Case closed, the matter be put in GW hands. Plus, do you really think the guy would answer a email with, "yes there are fakes" if they are?

Noir wrote:Why dose him reporting it matter to you, are you planing on buying them. If there fakes GW will do something if not the can't do anything. Case closed, the matter be put in GW hands. Plus, do you really think the guy would answer a email with, "yes there are fakes" if they are?

Because people are paying upwards of $75 for these on the basis of them being "unreleased" models, sculpted by Juan Diaz and intended for production by GW.

He's profiting upon GW's properties and Juan Diaz's name when in reality it's a kitbash he made himself.


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Cannibal wrote:Much of the evidence suggesting these are fake don't hold up. As was pointed out, Kasrkin Sgts could take storm bolters in 3rd ed. People are pointing to recognizable components as proof these are fake. Why does that mean fake? Do you think GW sculpters create a brand new lasgun sculpt for every guardsmen they do? Have you ever gone to Reaper Miniature's greens page and noticed a green carrying a metal weapon? Sculpters use pre-existing components like weapons as shortcuts and to maintain consistency. It's pretty common for GW to release 2 or 3 models that are clearly just upsculpted versions of each other, ie 2 Seraphim Sister Superiors but the second has a helmet and different weapons. Someone pointed out that it wouldn't say "Cadian" on the tab, why? I have a female in power armor that says "Space Marine" on the tab and it is a genuine 40k mini. Think of all the figures you've had that say slightly off things on the tabs. Besides it said Cadian, it's not like it said "Chaos Lord" or "Land Raider." These could be totaly fake, but there really isn't any evidence to suggest so.

You would also have to be daft to pay that much money because this Kasrkin has a grenade.

Edit: After looking through his other listings he had quite a few models listed as unreleased including the aformentioned Squat Cyber-Slayer http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unreleased-Warhammer-40k-second-edition-squat-cyberslayer-28mm-metal-figure-rare-/251101851609?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item3a76d62fd9. I also found that Kasrnkin Sgt with Shotgun that was mentioned http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unreleased-Games-Workshop-Warhammer-40k-Imperial-Guard-28mm-resin-figure-/350579457047?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item51a029fc17. I saw a Zoat and a whole host of RT models. Lots of cool stuff really. I say he's legit.

The "Kasrkin Sergeant with Shotgun" is not the same as a specific one which has photos of it as a green stuff test sculpt.

That is a Forge World Stormtrooper Chimera Commander, with a metal Arbites shotgun and a poorly sculpted "bionic arm" replacing an arm which usually is carrying a helmet.

Kanluwen wrote:

Noir wrote:Why dose him reporting it matter to you, are you planing on buying them. If there fakes GW will do something if not the can't do anything. Case closed, the matter be put in GW hands. Plus, do you really think the guy would answer a email with, "yes there are fakes" if they are?

Because people are paying upwards of $75 for these on the basis of them being "unreleased" models, sculpted by Juan Diaz and intended for production by GW.

He's profiting upon GW's properties and Juan Diaz's name when in reality it's a kitbash he made himself.

Reread what I wrote, dose it sound like I was talking to the guy who reported it or the guy bitching about him reporting it?

Noir wrote:Why dose him reporting it matter to you, are you planing on buying them. If there fakes GW will do something if not the can't do anything. Case closed, the matter be put in GW hands. Plus, do you really think the guy would answer a email with, "yes there are fakes" if they are?

There will ALWAYS be controversy surrounding such products, and looking back now, I wish I left it alone. Noir, I never intended to buy any (I don't have any of that sort of money!). I just didn't like people purchasing them for such a high price -but, obviously, that would be if they were not legitimate- I'm glad someone is backing me up. Thanks.

CASE CLOSED

these are not home made sculpts nor conversions. they are geniune unrealsed models that were going to come out but did not due to the un popularity of karshkins... probally will be released somtime soon they are only a 2 years old max. i spoke to this same ebay seller and i was bidding on 3 different models he had of different karshkins i lost all of them but lol

Joshua Von Wolkestadt wrote:

Noir wrote:Why dose him reporting it matter to you, are you planing on buying them. If there fakes GW will do something if not the can't do anything. Case closed, the matter be put in GW hands. Plus, do you really think the guy would answer a email with, "yes there are fakes" if they are?

There will ALWAYS be controversy surrounding such products, and looking back now, I wish I left it alone. Noir, I never intended to buy any (I don't have any of that sort of money!). I just didn't like people purchasing them for such a high price -but, obviously, that would be if they were not legitimate- I'm glad someone is backing me up. Thanks.

CASE CLOSED

In fact you are complaining about an model you are not able to purchase ?
Haha.
No worry for guys who are able to spent that sort of money (I did spent 600£ + two weeks ago in steve auctions).

He's profiting upon GW's properties and Juan Diaz's name when in reality it's a kitbash he made himself.

So. You can find Juan Diaz on facebook. Ask him directly.

The "Kasrkin Sergeant with Shotgun" is not the same as a specific one which has photos of it as a green stuff test sculpt.

The green isn't the same but the green wasn't finished. Pics of the resin master that was shown at an GD is exactly the same.

For the third?Fourth? time, those miniatures are real unreleased GW miniatures. Steve is an honnest seller ; and why not ask on the CCM group about those miniatures ?
BTW Joshua, I asked you - Did you ask Steve before contact GW ?
I did ask some sculptors that didn't remember what they did sculpt ... (Hello Mister Morley !) .... Useless to say that GW didn't remember everything ESPECIALLY WHEN THE SCULPTOR IS IN SPAIN AND CAN DO WHAT HE WANT .....

Like I said why dose it matter if he reports them. If they are fakes then GW will haldle it, if not they can't say more then please don't sell them. If you were a company and someone MIGHT be using your IP the defraud poeple, wouldn't you like a heads up?

Oliveraso_74 wrote:

Joshua Von Wolkestadt wrote:

Noir wrote:Why dose him reporting it matter to you, are you planing on buying them. If there fakes GW will do something if not the can't do anything. Case closed, the matter be put in GW hands. Plus, do you really think the guy would answer a email with, "yes there are fakes" if they are?

There will ALWAYS be controversy surrounding such products, and looking back now, I wish I left it alone. Noir, I never intended to buy any (I don't have any of that sort of money!). I just didn't like people purchasing them for such a high price -but, obviously, that would be if they were not legitimate- I'm glad someone is backing me up. Thanks.

CASE CLOSED

In fact you are complaining about an model you are not able to purchase ?
Haha.
No worry for guys who are able to spent that sort of money (I did spent 600£ + two weeks ago in steve auctions).

He's profiting upon GW's properties and Juan Diaz's name when in reality it's a kitbash he made himself.

So. You can find Juan Diaz on facebook. Ask him directly.

The "Kasrkin Sergeant with Shotgun" is not the same as a specific one which has photos of it as a green stuff test sculpt.

The green isn't the same but the green wasn't finished. Pics of the resin master that was shown at an GD is exactly the same.

For the third?Fourth? time, those miniatures are real unreleased GW miniatures. Steve is an honnest seller ; and why not ask on the CCM group about those miniatures ?
BTW Joshua, I asked you - Did you ask Steve before contact GW ?
I did ask some sculptors that didn't remember what they did sculpt ... (Hello Mister Morley !) .... Useless to say that GW didn't remember everything ESPECIALLY WHEN THE SCULPTOR IS IN SPAIN AND CAN DO WHAT HE WANT .....

Thanks for the reply mate. I appreciate your feedback. I am ashamed to say that I did not ask the seller, as, like Noir, I felt that IF they were fakes he would not state so. I would of preferred it if people like you, who have bought from Steve, would have contacted me earlier to avoid this whole commotion.
Even if this seller was selling genuine GW miniatures he cannot be penalised. He has clearly given credit to the true Sculptor and the Company that they were due to be sold for. When it comes to the price, that's his choice. As I have already said, I wish I left the whole thing alone.

As a collector, how does it matter that some sensible items get advert/link/pics directly to the GW IP department ?

EDIT : Joshua ; I'm ok with you ; the seller will not have any problem ; but maybe for the previous owner of the miniatures .

And as said before ; you are welcomed to join the collecting_citadel_miniatures yahoogroups if you have any questions about citadel miniatures, released or not.
Or the seller directly .

Oliveraso_74 wrote:As a collector, how does it matter that some sensible items get advert/link/pics directly to the GW IP department ?

EDIT : Joshua ; I'm ok with you ; the seller will not have any problem ; but maybe for the previous owner of the miniatures .

And as said before ; you are welcomed to join the collecting_citadel_miniatures yahoogroups if you have any questions about citadel miniatures, released or not.
Or the seller directly .

I am really pleased that we have come to terms with this matter!
Again, thanks for your feedback. I have learned my lesson...

Noir wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Noir wrote:Why dose him reporting it matter to you, are you planing on buying them. If there fakes GW will do something if not the can't do anything. Case closed, the matter be put in GW hands. Plus, do you really think the guy would answer a email with, "yes there are fakes" if they are?

Because people are paying upwards of $75 for these on the basis of them being "unreleased" models, sculpted by Juan Diaz and intended for production by GW.

He's profiting upon GW's properties and Juan Diaz's name when in reality it's a kitbash he made himself.

Reread what I wrote, dose it sound like I was talking to the guy who reported it or the guy bitching about him reporting it?

Shh! I was still waking up!

My bad Noir.


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spaceXjam wrote:these are not home made sculpts nor conversions. they are geniune unrealsed models that were going to come out but did not due to the un popularity of karshkins... probally will be released somtime soon they are only a 2 years old max. i spoke to this same ebay seller and i was bidding on 3 different models he had of different karshkins i lost all of them but lol

HAHAHA!
The "unpopularity of Kasrkins"?

You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about, and if you bought from this guy you got suckered.



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Oliveraso_74 wrote:

Joshua Von Wolkestadt wrote:

Noir wrote:Why dose him reporting it matter to you, are you planing on buying them. If there fakes GW will do something if not the can't do anything. Case closed, the matter be put in GW hands. Plus, do you really think the guy would answer a email with, "yes there are fakes" if they are?

There will ALWAYS be controversy surrounding such products, and looking back now, I wish I left it alone. Noir, I never intended to buy any (I don't have any of that sort of money!). I just didn't like people purchasing them for such a high price -but, obviously, that would be if they were not legitimate- I'm glad someone is backing me up. Thanks.

CASE CLOSED

In fact you are complaining about an model you are not able to purchase ?
Haha.
No worry for guys who are able to spent that sort of money (I did spent 600£ + two weeks ago in steve auctions).

He's profiting upon GW's properties and Juan Diaz's name when in reality it's a kitbash he made himself.

So. You can find Juan Diaz on facebook. Ask him directly.

You can find a ton of Juan Diazes on Facebook.

Facebook also has no verification feature that someone is, in fact, who they claim to be.

The "Kasrkin Sergeant with Shotgun" is not the same as a specific one which has photos of it as a green stuff test sculpt.

The green isn't the same but the green wasn't finished. Pics of the resin master that was shown at an GD is exactly the same.

No, they aren't.
The right arm on the one shown at Games Day had an armored hand. It was not a biotic arm, as that auction had.

For the third?Fourth? time, those miniatures are real unreleased GW miniatures. Steve is an honnest seller ; and why not ask on the CCM group about those miniatures ?
BTW Joshua, I asked you - Did you ask Steve before contact GW ?
I did ask some sculptors that didn't remember what they did sculpt ... (Hello Mister Morley !) .... Useless to say that GW didn't remember everything ESPECIALLY WHEN THE SCULPTOR IS IN SPAIN AND CAN DO WHAT HE WANT .....

Steve cannot be an honest seller.

Because he's not the only person selling these particular models.

And by the way, since you expressed a sentiment that "the sculptor can sell whatever he wants!".

That's not true. If you produce work under commission for a company, they own that work not you. If they choose to sell it or not is their business, you do not get to say that someone can sell it.

Cannibal wrote:As was pointed out, Kasrkin Sgts could take storm bolters in 3rd ed.

But Kasrkin models didn't come out until two years after the codex that took away their ability to take a storm bolter

Cannibal wrote:Sculpters use pre-existing components like weapons as shortcuts and to maintain consistency.

Certainly, but, as pointed out, this isn't a sculpt. It's not a new green with a few bitz added on, it's a blatant kitbash. There is nothing original on this model other than how the bitz have been arranged.

GW generally doesn't release mere conversions as new minis.

Because he's not the only person selling these particular models.

Maybe because more than one have been casted ? I know, I have one of the sarge with powerfist.

"the sculptor can sell whatever he wants!".

The sculptor can SCULPT whatever he wants !
An entire quidditch game have been sculpted but never released by GW.

EDIT : BTW ; "Steve cannot be an honest seller. " If you have an problem with Steve, you should contact him directly. He didn't have an account here as far I know, and It's not very good to say that sort of things ... without asking him to answer, right ?

About the kasrkin to be released - I highly doubt about that ; no IG codex planned for the moment, and if it's the case, you can count on plastic kasrkin.

Oliveraso_74 wrote:

Because he's not the only person selling these particular models.

Maybe because more than one have been casted ? I know, I have one of the sarge with powerfist.

You don't see the problem with this statement?

They don't do a "casting run" of a master sculpt which is not going to be released.
They do the masters, and that's it, in that case.

About the kasrkin to be released - I highly doubt about that ; no IG codex planned for the moment, and if it's the case, you can count on plastic kasrkin.

Plastic stormtroopers have been in the rumor mill for years. We've seen a test sculpt.

And guess what?
It wasn't a Juan Diaz.
It was Brian Nelson.

You don't see the problem with this statement?

Honnestly ? Absolutely not.
( English is not my first language so please also remember that in my answer .... and in what I read )

They don't do a "casting run" of a master sculpt which is not going to be released.

Mmmmmh ..... no.
They cast what they want, in what quantities they want, even if the miniature will not be released, Like the AM vehicle, quidditch game, stoormtrooper, spawn, etc, etc ....
Resin cast are usually around 10 cast. Metal are around 100-200, maybe more.


I haven't say plastic stoormtrooper will be released ... I just say that "If they make an new IG codex, they will not release those kasrkin but that will not be an surprise if they make plastic stoormtrooper".

What is the test sculpt you are speaking about for plastic stoormtrooper ? I hope you didn't mean the one with shotgun .

Oliveraso_74 wrote:

You don't see the problem with this statement?

Honnestly ? Absolutely not.
( English is not my first language so please also remember that in my answer .... and in what I read )

They don't do a "casting run" of a master sculpt which is not going to be released.

Mmmmmh ..... no.
They cast what they want, in what quantities they want, even if the miniature will not be released, Like the AM vehicle, quidditch game, stoormtrooper, spawn, etc, etc ....
Resin cast are usually around 10 cast. Metal are around 100-200, maybe more.


I haven't say plastic stoormtrooper will be released ... I just say that "If they make an new IG codex, they will not release those kasrkin but that will not be an surprise if they make plastic stoormtrooper".

What is the test sculpt you are speaking about for plastic stoormtrooper ? I hope you didn't mean the one with shotgun .

Even if they did release plastic Stormtroopers, it would be nice to see them selling variants of the concept. Like the command squad. They released a Cadian and a Catachan set. It would be cool if they did the same with Stormtroopers. It would cause them to appeal to a wider audience, and therefore grab GW more sales. I'm surprised that none of them came out when the new codex was released.

Plastic Stormtroopers came out in 2nd Edition.

Hi guys,

Steve here, the seller of the unreleased figures in question. I was alerted to this thread yesterday so I think it's only fair that I should be allowed a few words at my trial.

I can assure you that these figures are 100% genuine unreleased GW figures, obtained from a trusted source, one of many I have who are "very close" to GW. I'm sure you will undertsand that I can't - and I don't want to - reveal my source. So that leaves a bit of a dilemma as to how to convince you that these are GW.

I'm a collector, and as a collector I turn to provenance whenever I've been in a situation where I've had to make a judgement call on a particular figure or seller. So far I can say this has not let me down. So seeing as you guys have clearly not heard of me (and why should you have - I'm a collector rather than a gamer, although I did game from 1st to 3rd edition Warhammer) I'll give you a bit of background to myself so you can have at least some information on which to base your notion of the provenance of these figures.

I've been collecting Citadel figures for around 30 years, been group owner of the Citadel Collecting Yahoo group for both of its incarnations for around 10 years, and been ebaying for 11 years. As an ebay seller I have an immaculate record with 1 neutral to my name. Over the years I have sold thousands and thousands of figures, probably a few hundred of which I would classify as unreleased or "genuinely" rare. Outside of ebay I have traded with, bought from, and sold to most of the world's top collectors of Citadel. I'm sure you'll agree that I wouldn't have been able to maintain this reputation had I been selling anything dodgy. If anyone would like a character reference then feel free to sign up to the Yahoo group, or mention my userID (bridgend_steve) on the two forums which I tend to frequent the most, Frothers and Lead Adventure.

I have also been fortunate enough to have known the likes of Bryan Ansell and John Blanche. In fact, ironically I was intending to post a message to this forum in the next few days on a completely separate manner - John Blanche's ork biker army. I have a large collection of figures which were painted and converted by John Blanche, including his entire Ork biker army, part of which was featured in an edition of White Dwarf (346 I believe). I have just set up a website/blog (www.thecitadelcollector.co.uk) to document my collecting, including galleries of my Blanche figures. At the moment there is a pic of just one of my Blanche bikers (http://thecitadelcollector.co.uk/zen/index.php?album=john-blanche/citadel/ork-biker-army) but I hope to upload pics of the entire army over the next few days. This is the army I mean: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=2000099a&_requestid=1520753 . I have also worked with GW staff to host my figures at GW exhibitions, including one celebrating Warhammer's anniversary. You can see my figures here: http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n77/bridgend_steve/?action=view¤t=Picture005.jpg (my name is on the bottom of the info sheet to the left of the pic).

So why am I telling you all this? Well, hopefully it will help to convince you that I'm the "real deal" and not some kid who has kit-bashed some rip-off figures. I know I'm not going to be able to convince those of you who have already made up your mind about me and the figures, but for those of you still on the fence I hope this helps.

I have the other figures in this set, and I hope these will also be going on ebay over the next few weeks.

cheers
Steve

I think that's settled.
Good luck with the sales! A bit expensive for my taste but I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who'd very much enjoy owning them.