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All future beer money is now plastic wraithguard money. I really hope it's true!!

Thanks Kroothawk for find this!!!

lord_blackfang wrote:It's absolutely bonkers to waste warehouse space on stock that won't be released for another year.

Not really - you can't say that if you don't know:
a) How much space this is taking up,
b) How much warehouse space they have in total.

What they could be doing is gradually building up stock of a new range over several months by 'squeezing in' production runs in between other, higher priority runs. This also gives GW the option of saving money on later shipping and distribution by using these products to 'top up' any free space on shipping containers that may otherwise go unused. It takes many months to properly distribute a global product ready for launch - intercontinental shipping can easily take between 1 and 3 months to arrive and that's before you add the time to produce enough to meet demand.
It might be that the rumoured warehouse in question only has the first batches of these new products with many more to produce before they're ready for general sale.

It could also be a complete fabrication of course


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H.B.M.C. wrote:18 releases in one go (20 if you include the Codex and a new Battleforce)? I'll believe it when I see it.

Necrons got about 20 releases over a ~6 month window, and DE weren't far off that. Granted they had far more holes to fill in, but alot of this Eldar stuff is replacing what will be 20-year-old scuplts by the time they're released. I don't think it's that much of a stretch.

If only 40k held interest still, I'd pick up the new stuff to add to the stuff I plan on stripping and repainting for the umpteenth time. ASM's for 7th ed

Look at the date on the dakkajet transfer sheets they are from last year so a good indication that the product was ready at least 6 months before release

Ah man, that kinda sucks... I need Wraithguard for a tourny in December, that means I'll have to buy metal only for them to be replaced ~6 months later by newer, likely better and mroe interesting, plastic sculpts.

Hate it when that happens.

Sulk.

Wow. That is a bucket full of rumours if there ever was one

Crap sitting in a warehouse for a year alreay finished and waiting on a release fits right in with that news from open day where they said that they couldn't release everything as fast as people wanted because that might result in all the books being released with 2 years to go before the next edition. Heaven forbid.

Dragon Riders sounds like Exodite units to me. Unless they rewrite the background (impossible, as we all know the fluff is sacrosa- HAHAHAHAHAHA! I almost said that without laughing) then that means Exodite rules, as Maiden World Eldar don't really leave. They certainly don't take their "dragons" with them.

Nagashek wrote:Crap sitting in a warehouse for a year alreay finished and waiting on a release fits right in with that news from open day where they said that they couldn't release everything as fast as people wanted because that might result in all the books being released with 2 years to go before the next edition. Heaven forbid.

Dragon Riders sounds like Exodite units to me. Unless they rewrite the background (impossible, as we all know the fluff is sacrosa- HAHAHAHAHAHA! I almost said that without laughing) then that means Exodite rules, as Maiden World Eldar don't really leave. They certainly don't take their "dragons" with them.

Yeah, but, you know - Swooping Hawks aren't really birds, and Warp Spiders aren't arachnids. It's probably just a name.

This sounds great if not a little excessive, 20 Releases in one month does feel like a hell of a lot.

Still, this gives the impression a full re-work has been done with new units and new options. If true I'll be very excited to see a new dex.

Do not believe they have the kits in box's in storage for up to a year. This policy sounds madness. I know GW HQ in Nottingham is big but by those accounts they have stock piles of kits living around for a year prior to distribution. That's insane. If they are already in warehouses I would expect an earlier release date then currently speculated.

Eldar need some loving.

djbb wrote:20 Releases in one month does feel like a hell of a lot.

Could be two waves' worth, though.

Plastic Wraithguard would equal Iyanden Craftworld vs Hive Fleet Kraken Campaign for me

htj wrote:Yeah, but, you know - Swooping Hawks aren't really birds, and Warp Spiders aren't arachnids. It's probably just a name.

Yes, but Eldar already have Fire Dragons. If it was "just another aspect" they'd name it something else, unless the new Eldar book is going to be all about Wraithlords with Dragon Fists, skimmers armed with Dragonlances, and Phoenix Fighters with Dragon Strike Missles...

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htj wrote:Yeah, but, you know - Swooping Hawks aren't really birds, and Warp Spiders aren't arachnids. It's probably just a name.

Yes, but Eldar already have Fire Dragons. If it was "just another aspect" they'd name it something else, unless the new Eldar book is going to be all about Wraithlords with Dragon Fists, skimmers armed with Dragonlances, and Phoenix Fighters with Dragon Strike Missles...

Well... there is a precedent.

Mantle wrote:The webway gate is quite a good idea if guardians don't change, they would be a tempting target for assault units, until a unit of banshees or something jumps them from the gate

And stands there looking silly, unable to assault, as the guardians get reamed.

Unless the Webway gate over-rides the no assault from reserve rule, and judging by the fact the Webway Portal doesn't...

adamsouza wrote:I'd be happy with plastic Wraithguard and a new codex.

I dont play Eldar, or even 40k, but Id be all over some plastic Wraithguard. Ive always wanted to pick some up for other games, but the cost of the metal ones has made it a no.


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kitch102 wrote:Ah man, that kinda sucks... I need Wraithguard for a tourny in December, that means I'll have to buy metal only for them to be replaced ~6 months later by newer, likely better and mroe interesting, plastic sculpts.

Hate it when that happens.

Sulk.

So buy them, use them, then sell them. Use the $$ for the plastics when they come out.

OR quit feeding into the GW system of tricking customers into buying things twice. Make a list for the tourney that doesnt require
wraithguard.

If they take the time on Wraithguard I'll be happy with a new plastic box. If they still keep only two mediocre sculpts and charge 50 bucks for three I probably will pass and find a cheap conversion option.

Personally I'm not looking forward to this in the slightest. I have 9-10k pts of non-apoc eldar, so having to buy $300 of new shinies to be worth a damn gets a little old.

BlueDagger wrote:Personally I'm not looking forward to this in the slightest. I have 9-10k pts of non-apoc eldar, so having to buy $300 of new shinies to be worth a damn gets a little old.

You might want to hold out judgement. Generally, people with good collections do the best when codex changes / edition changes show up. For example, the new SW codex led to me not having to buy very much when it came out since I already had a diverse collection.

Looking forward to the new models. I have a really hard time believing they've got so much warehoused tho. In the day and age of smartphones I have a really hard time with the fact that no one can sneak in a picture every now and again. Make no mistake I want the rumors to be true, but they're 90% BS.

That flyer is so extensively described that that if it gets released in an upcoming new flyer wave it'll put some real credability on the OPs thread/post.

Eh track record lately:

- DE congrats go buy new stuff
- GK, congrats go buy new stuff
- Necrons, congrats go buy a whole new army
- CSM, seems so far congrats go buy new stuff

I have no doubt in my mind that when it comes to eldar, the new stuff will outshine the stuff we currently have. Not to mention the 7 million Eldar bandwagoners.

BlueDagger wrote:Eh track record lately:

- DE congrats go buy new stuff
- GK, congrats go buy new stuff
- Necrons, congrats go buy a whole new army
- CSM, seems so far congrats go buy new stuff

I have no doubt in my mind that when it comes to eldar, the new stuff will outshine the stuff we currently have. Not to mention the 7 million Eldar bandwagoners.

DE were able to use their current minis except Venoms and Flyers, if you already had a diverse collection, you were fine. If you wanted new shiny sculpts of the old minis, you were screwed.
GK were largely able to use their old minis. If you wanted new shiny (stormravens, DK and new sculpts), you were screwed.
Necrons, agreed. But their army was hella old and out of date.
CSM, so far it sounds like flyer is going to be the only really new thing. The rest sound like a diverse collection will be able to use what they have or convert existing to the new types.
Eldar, sounds like resculpts and repacks of older models for the most part. IF you want the new shiny sculpts, you will buy more, if not you'll be able to use most of what you have with a little conversion.

Feel free to keep panicking though.

Here's a thought. What if Xentarch were the eldar title for their Phoenix Lords...I've been yowling for new PL sculpts for about five years now. And to me I don't see them packaging their exarchs away from their aspects. I'd be on board with some new PL sculpts....but if they've had these in storage and are keeping them for another year then I think it's time to get a black ops team together.

Count me in MG; I'll be the tea boy

Plastic Wraithguard?

CAN'T THROW MONEY HARD ENOUGH.

QFT.

Cerebrium wrote:Plastic Wraithguard?

CAN'T THROW MONEY HARD ENOUGH.

Careful, There is a good chance that they will be just as expensive as the pewter ones. With the way GW has priced some stuff lately, I could see them charging 45-50 U.S. dollaes for a box of 3.

To me, the good news about the wraithguard is that if they are being done in plastic then their will most likely be greater access to them as troops in the next 'dex.

MightyGodzilla wrote:Here's a thought. What if Xentarch were the eldar title for their Phoenix Lords...I've been yowling for new PL sculpts for about five years now. And to me I don't see them packaging their exarchs away from their aspects. I'd be on board with some new PL sculpts....but if they've had these in storage and are keeping them for another year then I think it's time to get a black ops team together.

Captain Avatar suggested the exact same thing on the first page. I am inclined to agree. Though, I think most if not all will be the same models just redone in Finecost. The only Pheonix Lord I could see getting resculpted would be Jain Zair.

IMO< We are more likely, we will see a new Avatar sculpt, a new transport/flyer, one new unit, maybe a new PL for the Spiders to go along wth the one for the Shining Spears and finally add in new non-aspect SC. Everything else will just be repackaging and finecast.

I can see Wraithguard being £20.50 for 5, like Immortals.

They also did turn the old $7.50ea overcosted metal Tyranid Gargoyles into a $3.00ea plastic set. Wraithguard are a fine bet for a price decrease.

I think Wraithguard will be increased in size. That'll make more people want to buy them for a unified collection, and will make it harder for people to say "Price Rise!" because the kit is entirely different.

Unless they make them KillaKan-sized, it would be tremendously difficult to justify.

The three-Ravager kit for $50 was odd enough, but the kit replaced $22 metal models.

Then again, there's something there called "Cataphracts" that can be built with the Wraithguard box?
Are we getting Centaur-like Wraithguard?

That would make sense given some of the Epic Eldar Knight Titans.