Barrage weapon is the ultimate sniper

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**sudojoe**

Well the fortress doesn't have any fire points, except on the middle walkway bit. The rules state that you use the los of the weapon though. So it looks like the fortress can never use bs reduction for the missiles.

oh well, had my hopes up lol

**Grey Templar**

sudojoe wrote:
Grey Templar wrote:Yes, thats the point.

Mwhahahahahahahahahaha!!!

wait, a min, aren't you limited by where the barrage hits anyway for which models get it?

I figured with BS8, it'll be hard to miss anyway. At most you can possibly drift is 4 inches and it's not that often. If I put the hole over what I want, aren't I already selecting which targets get hit? Then they assign cover, if any are warrented

No, the Barrage rules just say treat the center of the template as the direction from where the shots are coming from instead of the normal allocation of the closest model. The Vindicare totally bucks the normal allocation steps.

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sudojoe wrote:
Well the fortress doesn't have any fire points, except on the middle walkway bit. The rules state that you use the los of the weapon though. So it looks like the fortress can never use bs reduction for the missiles.

oh well, had my hopes up lol

It still works. The missile silo is on the battlements.

**Trickstick**

Grey Templar wrote:It still works. The missile silo is on the battlements.

Yes, but you can't draw los from the silo so it must always be fired indirectly, without reduction to scatter.

**Grey Templar**

Unless a hit is rolled.

**DarknessEternal**

Mahtamori wrote:
DarknessEternal wrote:
Ailaros wrote:
D-cannons are actually somewhat interesting, but it's mostly from the whole remove model from play thing being able to pick grimnar completely out of terminators. Still, you've got to roll a 6 to make that happen, right?

It's just Instant Death, but yeah on a 6. Still wound on a 2+, Ap 2 otherwise though.

And Warp Hunters carry the 36", large blast D-cannon. That's nothing to sneeze at.

It's only blast. It's the template that makes it interesting.

The two actual books, not the experimental rules, that Warp Hunters are in clearly state 5" Blast.

**MFletch**

Trickstick wrote:
Grey Templar wrote:It still works. The missile silo is on the battlements.

Yes, but you can't draw los from the silo so it must always be fired indirectly, without reduction to scatter.

Well I expect to see improved GW models, as the rules clearly allow for where the silo can see the board. As well as adjusted ADLs for that matter.