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Kroothawk wrote:Jes Goodwin once confirmed in a video that he is working on plastic Sororitas but that there were probems with sculpting the dynamic folds. Difficult to say when they will be released, but not in the near future.


Yeah, it's the same ol' same ol' though. I'm betting on half past 2020 before we see anything.

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Bowl-cuts are for boys in the mid to late 90's.

Sisters have a "Bob-cut" supposedly invented by Vidal Sassoon (or however you spell his name).



I'd prefer them to be bald.



I really like the sisters, but converting is my favourite thing in this hobby, and converting metal is just utter pain. Multi-part plastics would be glorious.

   
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The Void

pretre wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:Jes Goodwin once confirmed in a video that he is working on plastic Sororitas but that there were probems with sculpting the dynamic folds. Difficult to say when they will be released, but not in the near future.


Yeah, it's the same ol' same ol' though. I'm betting on half past 2020 before we see anything.


Optimistic me thinks

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pretre wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:Jes Goodwin once confirmed in a video that he is working on plastic Sororitas but that there were probems with sculpting the dynamic folds. Difficult to say when they will be released, but not in the near future.


Yeah, it's the same ol' same ol' though. I'm betting on half past 2020 before we see anything.

The year Half Life 3 will be anouncd for2030?

   
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thenoobbomb wrote:
pretre wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:Jes Goodwin once confirmed in a video that he is working on plastic Sororitas but that there were probems with sculpting the dynamic folds. Difficult to say when they will be released, but not in the near future.


Yeah, it's the same ol' same ol' though. I'm betting on half past 2020 before we see anything.

The year Half Life 3 will be anouncd for2030?


On Valve's new console

I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
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KalashnikovMarine wrote:
thenoobbomb wrote:
pretre wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:Jes Goodwin once confirmed in a video that he is working on plastic Sororitas but that there were probems with sculpting the dynamic folds. Difficult to say when they will be released, but not in the near future.


Yeah, it's the same ol' same ol' though. I'm betting on half past 2020 before we see anything.

The year Half Life 3 will be anouncd for2030?


On Valve's new console

... running Android.

 
   
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Purifier wrote:
KalashnikovMarine wrote:
thenoobbomb wrote:
pretre wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:Jes Goodwin once confirmed in a video that he is working on plastic Sororitas but that there were probems with sculpting the dynamic folds. Difficult to say when they will be released, but not in the near future.


Yeah, it's the same ol' same ol' though. I'm betting on half past 2020 before we see anything.

The year Half Life 3 will be anouncd for2030?


On Valve's new console

... running Android.

.... with a Steam app..

   
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The Void

thenoobbomb wrote:
Purifier wrote:
KalashnikovMarine wrote:
thenoobbomb wrote:
pretre wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:Jes Goodwin once confirmed in a video that he is working on plastic Sororitas but that there were probems with sculpting the dynamic folds. Difficult to say when they will be released, but not in the near future.


Yeah, it's the same ol' same ol' though. I'm betting on half past 2020 before we see anything.

The year Half Life 3 will be anouncd for2030?


On Valve's new console

... running Android.

.... with a Steam app..


and a piece of the true cross and the Emperor's tears as part of the graphics card

I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long


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I'd make a Duke Nukem Forever joke, but that would be passé. GW, FLGS, and ebay for me have been great sources for my SoB. In fact, I just ordered last Saturday the last two Immolator kits I needed along with the last few dual Bolt Pistol Seraphim I needed to make three full squads of 10. Good luck OP in your quest for Sisters.

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Immolator kits are an awesome deal. Are they still cheaper than rhinos?

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I suck so bad at hair and face painting so I tend to get death korps, and steel legion. All my marines wear helmets. Safety first!

If I go sisters, I really would like to take a dab at painting faces but I do wish they had better hair cuts.

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What's so bad with the bob? It is iconic.

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I was sitting on 1500 points of Sisters for a long time waiting for them to get a new codex and plastic models before expanding. I gave up. Most of mine have gone the way of ebay or are currently listed there to go away.

Sisters of Battle are a pipe dream that is not going to be realized in any manner which I would consider timely so I moved on. More power to you though!

Immolator kit is same price as Rhino.

   
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Heh. Yeah, waiting for plastics is a fools game at this point. They do get fairly regular codex updates though. That's nice.

Oh, they did raise the price. Still, so many more bits than a rhino for the same price.

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pretre wrote:Heh. Yeah, waiting for plastics is a fools game at this point. They do get fairly regular codex updates though. That's nice.

Oh, they did raise the price. Still, so many more bits than a rhino for the same price.


Agreed, the Immolator is a good deal.

I would not consider that travesty of a White Dwarf Codex as an update. More like a nail in the coffin.

   
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I like the White Dwarf codex. I think it brought back a Sisters central list and 6th edition restored anything that was lost by allowing allies. Win-win.

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The codex itself was... adequate and I always preferred sister centered lists. However, the fact that it was a White Dwarf release was appalling. I would have preferred to wait for a new (real) codex along with new miniatures. Getting a White Dwarf codex is similar to being an orphan and having a family start the adoption process. Only, like with the White Dwarf Codex, you soon realize that you are not getting anything concrete for your army (no new actual codex and no new actual miniatures) which is similar to how that orphan feels when the family decides they cannot afford to adopt.

   
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Rivet wrote:The codex itself was... adequate and I always preferred sister centered lists. However, the fact that it was a White Dwarf release was appalling.

You do know that we have a history of this, right?
2nd Edition - Codex: Sisters of Battle (one of the last codexes before 3rd)
3rd Edition - Black Book List, Codex: Sisters of Battle in WD (Aka, Codex: Chapter Approved) , Codex: Witchhunters with WD Zealots add-on
4th Edition - Continued C:WH
5th Edition - Codex: Sisters of Battle in WD
6th Edition - Continued C:SOB in WD

So we've had one real codex in 6 editions. We also had one inquisition mixed codex. Codex: Chapter Approved was perhaps the best list out of the codexes we have had so far, in my opinion. C:SOB with 6th Edition allies is probably my second favorite.

I would have preferred to wait for a new (real) codex along with new miniatures. Getting a White Dwarf codex is similar to being an orphan and having a family start the adoption process. Only, like with the White Dwarf Codex, you soon realize that you are not getting anything concrete for your army (no new actual codex and no new actual miniatures) which is similar to how that orphan feels when the family decides they cannot afford to adopt.

I wouldn't go that far. Blood Angels got exactly the same treatment and they are fine now.

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pretre wrote:I like the White Dwarf codex. I think it brought back a Sisters central list and 6th edition restored anything that was lost by allowing allies. Win-win.
Whilst I enjoy the Sisters-centric list, I am fairly sure we all agree on the lack of options, especially as far as the Canoness is concerned. And when I am forced to take allies to restore which was lost ... what's the difference to the Witch Hunter Codex, again?
Oh, wait, the WH Codex actually allowed me to field a pure SoB army as well, only that I did not have to rely on non-SoB special characters to make it competitive.
   
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Lynata wrote:Whilst I enjoy the Sisters-centric list, I am fairly sure we all agree on the lack of options, especially as far as the Canoness is concerned.

The only lack of options is the Canoness and that is simply a return to her 3rd edition roots, pre-C:WH. As much as I liked the Jump Canoness of Doom, I'm sure we can agree that that was probably an unintended consequence.

And when I am forced to take allies to restore which was lost ... what's the difference to the Witch Hunter Codex, again?

That's the point. If you liked C:WH, which was an aberration in Sisters armies, you can still field it with allies. If you didn't? Welcome back to your roots.

Oh, wait, the WH Codex actually allowed me to field a pure SoB army as well, only that I did not have to rely on non-SoB special characters to make it competitive.

You don't need non-SOB characters to make the WD codex competitive. Celestine is plenty competitive and you only need one HQ. Also, Kyrinov and Uriah are basically SOB characters since they have been in SOB codexes going back to 2nd edition.

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I know there is a history of it, however, it does not make me like or want to accept it any less. It just further proves my point of the orphan treatment analogy, only it has been going on for a long time.

Blood Angels got the same treatment, sure but they finally got adopted so to speak. They have their own codex.

@Lynata: I agree fully. I think one of the things that was the last straw so to speak was taking away my jump pack canoness, especially after I had just finished converting an amazing one from Celestine and Sanguinor + bits.

   
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I dunno, I've just been doing this waaay too long to get upset over the loss of one type of unit or another. We have always been orphans. That combined with our metal models pretty much define SoB as an army.

To talk about the jump canoness, I always felt this was an oversight. I don't think I ever really thought 'GW certainly intended for Sisters of Battle to have the hardest to kill close combat character through a clever arrangement of wargear'. Add to that the fact that the JP Canoness never really appeared in previous versions of the list and I knew she wasn't long for the world. Don't get me wrong, I had one or two assembled for my army, but when they took it away, I just shrugged and moved on.

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pretre wrote:The only lack of options is the Canoness and that is simply a return to her 3rd edition roots, pre-C:WH. As much as I liked the Jump Canoness of Doom, I'm sure we can agree that that was probably an unintended consequence.
Ah, I didn't even mean the jump-pack - whilst hilarious and effective, I always thought it was a bit unfluffy myself. Though I suppose this could have been dealt with by some custom background, like just fielding the Canoness as a special Seraphim heroine.

No, what is grinding my gears is that we've been robbed of stuff like the Blessed Weapon, the Mantle of Ophelia or the Cloak of St. Aspira. Having access to such items would go a long way to actually make the Canoness a viable choice again.
Whilst you may argue that this is a return to her pre-WH roots, I will argue that back in those days, everybody had the same lack of fancy special gear. These days, not doing so is a drawback, and one which makes it fairly hard to go for this option even if you are willing to make concessions.

pretre wrote:That's the point. If you liked C:WH, which was an aberration in Sisters armies, you can still field it with allies. If you didn't? Welcome back to your roots.
You could always field a pure SoB army. Well, not always. Actually, their roots are the WD 211 rules where you could take squads of Battle Sisters as backup for Space Marines or IG. But codexwise, it has gotten worse, since a C:WH pure SoB army arguably had more stuff than a 5E pure SoB army - and if you take them with 6E allies you do not gain anything that would make them superior to what was possible if you made use of everything in C:WH. Where's the win in that?

pretre wrote:You don't need non-SOB characters to make the WD codex competitive. Celestine is plenty competitive and you only need one HQ. Also, Kyrinov and Uriah are basically SOB characters since they have been in SOB codexes going back to 2nd edition.
Celestine isn't a Battle Sister, and neither are Kyrinov and Uriah. I just wanted to field a bunch of nuns with guns.
   
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One of the many reasons why I like the fact that my buddy and I still play with 4th edition rules. It means that alongside my Kroot Mercs, Space Wolves 13th company, and Legion of the Damned cursed founding army, I can keep playing my Sisters of Battle in the way that they were the most fun, which is to either use the Chapter Approved Codex, or Codex: Witchhunters, and actually give my Canoness wargear.

I am insulted by GW and the fact that because I didn't hear about the Codex in White Dwarf until after it was out, I have to do so much work just to even use the models I spent so much money on in the current climate.

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Lynata wrote:No, what is grinding my gears is that we've been robbed of stuff like the Blessed Weapon, the Mantle of Ophelia or the Cloak of St. Aspira. Having access to such items would go a long way to actually make the Canoness a viable choice again.

Fair enough, we have had those for quite some time (going back to C:CA)

since a C:WH pure SoB army arguably had more stuff than a 5E pure SoB army -

That's not true.
C:WH, pure SoB: Heroine, Celestine, Celestian, Repentia, BSS, Dominions, Seraphim, Retributors, Exorcist
C:SOB, pure SOB: Canoness, Celestine, Celestian Command Squad, Celestians, Repentia, BSS, Dominions, Seraphim, Retributors, Exorcist

So we got the CCS (which arguably we had with less rules in C:WH). It's pretty much a wash.

and if you take them with 6E allies you do not gain anything that would make them superior to what was possible if you made use of everything in C:WH. Where's the win in that?

You were severly restricted in what you could take from allied lists and SoB couldn't have allied SM in the same list before (although you could the other way around). Now you have more options that you didn't have in C:WH (Valks, Artillery, Manticores, all sorts of HQs, elites, etc).

Celestine isn't a Battle Sister, and neither are Kyrinov and Uriah. I just wanted to field a bunch of nuns with guns.

Of her life before she was declared a Living Saint, very little is known of
Celestine, other than that she was a Sister Repentia of the Order of Our
Martyred Lady.

Celestine is an SOB.


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AegisGrimm wrote:One of the many reasons why I like the fact that my buddy and I still play with 4th edition rules. It means that alongside my Kroot Mercs, Space Wolves 13th company, and Legion of the Damned cursed founding army, I can keep playing my Sisters of Battle in the way that they were the most fun, which is to either use the Chapter Approved Codex, or Codex: Witchhunters, and actually give my Canoness wargear.

I am insulted by GW and the fact that because I didn't hear about the Codex in White Dwarf until after it was out, I have to do so much work just to even use the models I spent so much money on in the current climate.


Yes, we get it. You love 4th edition. If you're house-ruling anyways, you could play any of those lists in 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th editions. Just pick the codex you want. If you are really hard up for the codex, PM me and I might know where you can find a copy.

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Yes, we get it. You love 4th edition.


No need to get snappy......and to be truthful, I'm only "meh" about 4th. Some people can't pour money into the hobby just to tread water, though.


I think GW bould really help the army sell by putting their WD 'dex up on the website, and show people that are looking at the SOB for the first time that they can actually play them as an army in 6th edition. That at the least would go a long way.

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pretre wrote:That's not true.
C:WH, pure SoB: Heroine, Celestine, Celestian, Repentia, BSS, Dominions, Seraphim, Retributors, Exorcist
C:SOB, pure SOB: Canoness, Celestine, Celestian Command Squad, Celestians, Repentia, BSS, Dominions, Seraphim, Retributors, Exorcist
So we got the CCS (which arguably we had with less rules in C:WH). It's pretty much a wash.
I was referring to the wargear.
Personally, I could even do with less types of units if I could just kit them out in a better way.

pretre wrote:You were severly restricted in what you could take from allied lists and SoB couldn't have allied SM in the same list before (although you could the other way around). Now you have more options that you didn't have in C:WH (Valks, Artillery, Manticores, all sorts of HQs, elites, etc).
You could take everything from the IG Codex if you used them as Inducted Allies to the WH army.
You could also field Sisters together with SM and all their variants if you used WH as allies to Marines (with exception of SoB Heavy Support).
There were some limitations, but I wouldn't call them "severe". You just had to juggle a bit and decide which Codex is the main force and which is its ally, as the limitations were different depending on which of the two options you picked.

pretre wrote:Of her life before she was declared a Living Saint, very little is known of Celestine, other than that she was a Sister Repentia of the Order of Our Martyred Lady.
Celestine is an SOB.
She was a SoB. Now she's a Living Saint. You should know that I am aware of her background.

I don't want my army to be commanded by some mythical angelic saint or an Ecclesiarchy priest. I just want a proper commander of the Orders Militant without any fancy space magic.
   
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Personally, I could even do with less types of units if I could just kit them out in a better way....
I don't want my army to be commanded by some mythical angelic saint or an Ecclesiarchy priest. I just want a proper commander of the Orders Militant without any fancy space magic.


I agree. That's what seems to most lost to me about the current SoB.



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Lynata wrote: I was referring to the wargear.
Personally, I could even do with less types of units if I could just kit them out in a better way.

Oh, fair enough. There's more wargear in C:WH.

pretre wrote:You could take everything from the IG Codex if you used them as Inducted Allies to the WH army.

That's not true. You could only take Infantry Platoons, Armoured Fists, Sentinels, Rough Riders and 0-1 LRBT.

You could also field Sisters together with SM and all their variants if you used WH as allies to Marines (with exception of SoB Heavy Support).

Right, but you couldn't bring SM to an SOB list. Now everything is available both ways.

There were some limitations, but I wouldn't call them "severe". You just had to juggle a bit and decide which Codex is the main force and which is its ally, as the limitations were different depending on which of the two options you picked.

Right, but less restrictions + more options = more availability now.

She was a SoB. Now she's a Living Saint. You should know that I am aware of her background.

Yeah, but I think you are quibbling. She's basically an advanced SOB. It is like saying Sanguinor or Meph aren't Blood Angels.

I don't want my army to be commanded by some mythical angelic saint or an Ecclesiarchy priest. I just want a proper commander of the Orders Militant without any fancy space magic.

You might be in the wrong army if you don't want fancy space magic. It is kinda our thing. Fancy Divine space magic, that is.


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Personally, I could even do with less types of units if I could just kit them out in a better way....
I don't want my army to be commanded by some mythical angelic saint or an Ecclesiarchy priest. I just want a proper commander of the Orders Militant without any fancy space magic.


I agree. That's what seems to most lost to me about the current SoB.

It isn't lost to you though. Field a canoness with two Plasma Pistols in a CCS with some multimeltas. Run around nuking the crud out of people. It may not be Jacobus or Celestine, but it is still good.

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