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2012/08/12 00:47:38
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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There's a prevailing right-wing myth in the UK that prisoners get given daily felatio and whatever techno gadgets they want. It's bs.
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Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics.
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2012/08/12 01:37:51
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Who needs prisons? Just publicly execute the ones who commit capital crimes (rape, third-degree murder, etc.) as examples and have the rest flogged. Or, instead of execution, send the capital criminals to work camps ala Gulag. After trial, mind...before that, incarceration.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/08/12 01:38:41
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Tadashi wrote:Who needs prisons? Just execute the ones who commit capital crimes (rape, third-degree murder, etc.) and have the rest flogged. Or, instead of execution, work camps ala Gulag.
Mmmm.... nah. Bad idea.
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2012/08/12 01:40:28
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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feeder wrote:Tadashi wrote:Who needs prisons? Just execute the ones who commit capital crimes (rape, third-degree murder, etc.) and have the rest flogged. Or, instead of execution, work camps ala Gulag.
Mmmm.... nah. Bad idea.
Which part? The public executions? Or the flogging? Or the Gulag?
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/08/12 01:47:18
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Everything you ever say?
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2012/08/12 01:48:53
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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We can send the deathrow inmates to mars!
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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2012/08/12 01:50:17
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Melissia wrote:We can send the deathrow inmates to mars!
Now why would we want to do that?
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/08/12 01:52:22
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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To test out mars colonization equipment.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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2012/08/12 01:56:01
Subject: Re:Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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US Army penal legions! Er, regiments?
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2012/08/12 01:58:12
Subject: Re:Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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US Army penal legions! Er, regiments?
Against UCMJ. They stuck breaking big rocks into little rocks on thursday's
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2012/08/12 02:04:31
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Zealous Sin-Eater
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Melissia wrote:We can send the deathrow inmates to mars!
Would make a cool reality show! I always felt that the Surreal Life should have allowed shanking.
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2012/08/12 02:06:41
Subject: Re:Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Start real life Gladiators fight in the coliseum. GLORY FOR ROME!!!
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Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
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Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
DE 6700
Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.
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2012/08/12 02:11:51
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Tadashi wrote:Melissia wrote:We can send the deathrow inmates to mars!
Now why would we want to do that?
Worked out good for Australia, and Mars might be a bit more hospitable than Australia.
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2012/08/12 02:17:54
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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d-usa wrote:Tadashi wrote:Melissia wrote:We can send the deathrow inmates to mars!
Now why would we want to do that?
Worked out good for Australia, and Mars might be a bit more hospitable than Australia.
The "convicts" sent to Australia were most of the time sent for very petty reasons. The government needed people to send over, so they put pressure on judges to convict people of minor crimes and send them to Oz. It had nothing to do with prison over-crowding or somesuch.
The modern day equivalent would be sending away someone for possession of a small amount of cannabis, or accumulating driving tickets.
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Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics.
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2012/08/12 02:29:12
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Testify wrote:
The modern day equivalent would be sending away someone for possession of a small amount of cannabis, or accumulating driving tickets.
The former should be flogged (unless he/she were addicted, in which case psychiatric care would be prescribed) and the latter should be fined - HEAVILY.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/08/12 02:31:26
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Zealous Sin-Eater
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Nah. My paternal great great great grandfather was sent to Australia instead of being hung for armed treason.
He left and lived in the U.S. for a few years before a pardon was issued for the Metis government of Louis Riel.
Edit : Flogging for marijuana possession? Feth...
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2012/08/12 02:36:09
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Kovnik Obama wrote:
Edit : Flogging for marijuana possession? Feth...
A fitting punishment, seeing as pushers and dealers ruin the lives of other people...addicts though, get free psychiatric and/or medical care.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/08/12 02:36:24
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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But look how good Australia turned out. Just think what we can do with Mars!
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2012/08/12 02:38:50
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Tadashi wrote:Kovnik Obama wrote:
Edit : Flogging for marijuana possession? Feth...
A fitting punishment, seeing as pushers and dealers ruin the lives of other people...addicts though, get free psychiatric and/or medical care.
I have used and dealt cannabis. You're talking out of your arse.
I think you're thinking of this.
Kovnik Obama wrote:Nah. My paternal great great great grandfather was sent to Australia instead of being hung for armed treason.
Under what circumstances? Was he an Irish/Scottish freedom fighter? And his background?
I doubt he was what we would today consider "criminal scum" - compulsive murderers, rapists, etc.
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Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics.
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2012/08/12 02:42:17
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Testify wrote:Tadashi wrote:Kovnik Obama wrote:
Edit : Flogging for marijuana possession? Feth...
A fitting punishment, seeing as pushers and dealers ruin the lives of other people...addicts though, get free psychiatric and/or medical care.
I have used and dealt cannabis. You're talking out of your arse.
I think you're thinking of this.
Sorry, but where I grew up, both are illegal. Its also illegal in Japan and many US states.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/08/12 02:44:48
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Zealous Sin-Eater
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Tadashi wrote:]
A fitting punishment, seeing as pushers and dealers ruin the lives of other people...addicts though, get free psychiatric and/or medical care.
A) Pot dealers don't ruin anyone's life. B) Flogging isn't a good way of discouraging a crime that can potentially gets you hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions. C) You'd end up with drug cartels arming themselves. Does Mexico sounds like a nice model to emulate? Automatically Appended Next Post: Testify wrote:
Kovnik Obama wrote:Nah. My paternal great great great grandfather was sent to Australia instead of being hung for armed treason.
Under what circumstances? Was he an Irish/Scottish freedom fighter? And his background?
I doubt he was what we would today consider "criminal scum" - compulsive murderers, rapists, etc.
He was Louis Riel's general during the Red River Rebellion (also known as the North-West Rebellion). He was sentenced to hanging, but after the outcry that followed Riel's hanging, his sentence was commuted in exil.
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2012/08/12 02:52:39
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Kovnik Obama wrote:
A) Pot dealers don't ruin anyone's life.
A lot of people in the Philippines and in Japan beg to differ.
B) Flogging isn't a good way of discouraging a crime that can potentially gets you hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions.
And I suppose that justifies the Human cost?
C) You'd end up with drug cartels arming themselves. Does Mexico sounds like a nice model to emulate?
As I recall, in my grandfather's time, the Philippine Army didn't have any trouble storming drug cartels hiding out in the mountains and forests. And apparently, they still don't.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/08/12 02:58:42
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Pot is about as dangerous as tobacco.
Actually, it's not quite, seeing as it's not physically addictive.
http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/19/is-marijuana-addictive-it-depends-how-you-define-addiction/
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2012/08/12 02:59:16
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Mistaking Opium and Marijuana, maybe? There's no 'human cost' to marijuana, beyond the few casualities that can come out of cartel wars, and possibly cancer in the same levels as tobacco. But marijuana users usually don't smoke in quantities that ressemble what a tobacco user does.
Once again, Tadashi speaks of what he knows not. So fresh...
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2012/08/12 02:59:27
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Tadashi wrote:
Sorry, but where I grew up, both are illegal. Its also illegal in Japan and many US states.
It's illegal here too, it's just not really enforced, and for a very good reason. But I won't get into the pros and cons of cannabis use in this thread.
Kovnik Obama wrote:
He was Louis Riel's general during the Red River Rebellion (also known as the North-West Rebellion). He was sentenced to hanging, but after the outcry that followed Riel's hanging, his sentence was commuted in exil.
That's pretty cool man. Always nice to hear some personal family history.
But anyway - sounds more like a political prisoner than a criminal to me, so I think my point still stands. Automatically Appended Next Post: Kovnik Obama wrote:Mistaking Opium and Marijuana, maybe? There's no 'human cost' to marijuana, beyond the few casualities that can come out of cartel wars, and possibly cancer in the same levels as tobacco. But marijuana users usually don't smoke in quantities that ressemble what a tobacco user does.
Speak for yourself.
Seriously though, no one in Britain has ever died as a result of "cannabis wars" or whatever bs the anti-drug crowd pull out.
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Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics.
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2012/08/12 03:01:51
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Zealous Sin-Eater
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I can admit that it's addictive. In about the same level of addiction as caffeine.
I currently cutting down on my usage, and there are a few bad side effects. The vivid nightmares, for starters. But talking about a 'human cost' or 'ruining lives' is fething ridiculous.
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2012/08/12 03:03:39
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Tadashi wrote:feeder wrote:Tadashi wrote:Who needs prisons? Just execute the ones who commit capital crimes (rape, third-degree murder, etc.) and have the rest flogged. Or, instead of execution, work camps ala Gulag.
Mmmm.... nah. Bad idea.
Which part? The public executions? Or the flogging? Or the Gulag?
All of it. None of those are demonstrably effective at deterring crime.
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2012/08/12 03:06:13
Subject: Man Forced to Work in Prison Sues Under Anti-Slavery Amendment
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Kovnik Obama wrote:Mistaking Opium and Marijuana, maybe? There's no 'human cost' to marijuana, beyond the few casualities that can come out of cartel wars, and possibly cancer in the same levels as tobacco. But marijuana users usually don't smoke in quantities that ressemble what a tobacco user does.
Once again, Tadashi speaks of what he knows not. So fresh...
No, marijuana in all its forms are illegal in the Philippines. I grew up here, and I know what I'm talking about. Just mere possession could land you in jail...the Army TORCHES all the fields it can find. You think they would do that if it was legal? Opium derivatives, on the other hand, are HEAVILY-CONTROLLED. If not prescribed, and you use it, you still go to jail.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/08/12 03:06:35
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Jihadin wrote:Start real life Gladiators fight in the coliseum. GLORY FOR ROME!!!
One of the surest signs of a decaying society is when its criminal justice system becomes its entertainment.
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2012/08/12 03:08:14
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Kim Kardasian any better?
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Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog
Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
DE 6700
Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.
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