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Well, most cults just shrivel and die. The problem with cults being "good" is that the methods of indoctination are usually morally grey at best, which doesn't lend well to the future of the organization. The other problem is that leader types tend to be egotistical and this is more easily noticed in circle as small as most cults.
That said, a cult can help people with certain mental/social problems like addiction and depression.
J-Roc77 wrote:Next week Bacchus week? Can we settle on Dionysus? Greek vs Roman!
The Romans stole their Gods from the Greeks...
Those dirty thieves! (I know, I just like the older school name just in spite of the romans).
Jihadin wrote:
The Romans stole their Gods from the Greeks...
We have the Coliseum though bring on the gladiators!!
Ok, I will concede the point, Bacchus it is. The coliseum is what keeps me from revolting, bring on the entertainment! Floorgies and fights!
xole wrote:Well, most cults just shrivel and die. The problem with cults being "good" is that the methods of indoctination are usually morally grey at best, which doesn't lend well to the future of the organization. The other problem is that leader types tend to be egotistical and this is more easily noticed in circle as small as most cults.
That said, a cult can help people with certain mental/social problems like addiction and depression.
In fact, some cults target those people!
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Testify wrote:I don't believe in God, but recently, having been translating the Gospel of John from the original Greek, I've been thinking about Christianity and what Jesus had to say about the world.
I'm still atheist, but I don't know...atheist Christian?
Might want to check out the Jefferson Bible. Thomas Jefferson excised all the supernatural bits from his, but still believed Jesus' teachings were the most sublime system of morality yet conceived.
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Cheesecat wrote:Atheist, I don't like the idea putting my faith into something I can't prove.
That's why it's called faith.
Don't worry I'm aware of that.
To argue against putting your faith into something you can't prove would require you to be able to put faith into something you can. Which goes against that particular definition of faith.
Atheist...
Never really got religion, always found it kinda pointless...
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That depends. Do you have an overpowering urge to obtain:
Or do you just have to point out the obvious, like this:
Or do you just want to go to the nearest jungle planet and live in a swamp?
I think there is a church of the jedi, actually. In England I think they are considering making it an actual religion.
On an unrelated note, I just burnt all the front of my hair starting the barbeque. Depending entirely on faith, we can see that as diving judgement for my IG shenanigans or bad luck. Or idiocy.
I think there is a church of the jedi, actually. In England I think they are considering making it an actual religion.
On an unrelated note, I just burnt all the front of my hair starting the barbeque. Depending entirely on faith, we can see that as diving judgement for my IG shenanigans or bad luck. Or idiocy.
Or Batman did it...
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"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry.
Testify wrote:I don't believe in God, but recently, having been translating the Gospel of John from the original Greek, I've been thinking about Christianity and what Jesus had to say about the world.
I'm still atheist, but I don't know...atheist Christian?
Might want to check out the Jefferson Bible. Thomas Jefferson excised all the supernatural bits from his, but still believed Jesus' teachings were the most sublime system of morality yet conceived.
I think Atheist Christian is actually a thing. If I recall it basically reduced Christianity into a philosophy and you follow the morality of Jesus but don't put your faith into salvation. Kind of like a "If Jesus was Budha' kind of thing.
Testify wrote:I don't believe in God, but recently, having been translating the Gospel of John from the original Greek, I've been thinking about Christianity and what Jesus had to say about the world.
I'm still atheist, but I don't know...atheist Christian?
Might want to check out the Jefferson Bible. Thomas Jefferson excised all the supernatural bits from his, but still believed Jesus' teachings were the most sublime system of morality yet conceived.
I think Atheist Christian is actually a thing. If I recall it basically reduced Christianity into a philosophy and you follow the morality of Jesus but don't put your faith into salvation. Kind of like a "If Jesus was Budha' kind of thing.
Except, it's nothing like Buddhism I think it's more like, most people think you can either be spiritualist or materialist. Seems to me that we live in a material world, but viewed through our own consciousness becomes spiritual.
I don't think there's such a thing as God, on the other hand I do think there is more to the world than physical objects. Not spiritualism, more the warmth and insanity of human existance
Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics.
Secular Humanist. ...Its a less complex way of saying Atheist who believes everything's survival of the fittest. He our symbol is the "Happy Human", doesn't that sound more pleasant than "thing they used to torture people to death"....Crucifix. XD
Testify wrote:I don't believe in God, but recently, having been translating the Gospel of John from the original Greek, I've been thinking about Christianity and what Jesus had to say about the world.
I'm still atheist, but I don't know...atheist Christian?
Might want to check out the Jefferson Bible. Thomas Jefferson excised all the supernatural bits from his, but still believed Jesus' teachings were the most sublime system of morality yet conceived.
I think Atheist Christian is actually a thing. If I recall it basically reduced Christianity into a philosophy and you follow the morality of Jesus but don't put your faith into salvation. Kind of like a "If Jesus was Budha' kind of thing.
Christian Atheism is indeed a thing. If I adhere to anything it would be Christian Atheism.
Testify wrote:I don't believe in God, but recently, having been translating the Gospel of John from the original Greek, I've been thinking about Christianity and what Jesus had to say about the world.
I'm still atheist, but I don't know...atheist Christian?
Might want to check out the Jefferson Bible. Thomas Jefferson excised all the supernatural bits from his, but still believed Jesus' teachings were the most sublime system of morality yet conceived.
I think Atheist Christian is actually a thing. If I recall it basically reduced Christianity into a philosophy and you follow the morality of Jesus but don't put your faith into salvation. Kind of like a "If Jesus was Budha' kind of thing.
Except, it's nothing like Buddhism
I was trying to compare it to Budhism in the sense of it being a religion based on the moral teachings of a person, not trying to compare the actual teachings of Budha or Jesus. Sorry if it came across differently.
Anti-Theist here.
Religion is the root of all evil and should be stamped out.
Hard.
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Atheist. As in I cannot conceive of any intelligent being creating this world we live in, at least not with us in mind. Not because of some teenage 'the world is so dark' nonsense, because the world isn't that dark, but because the world is mainly just kind of random. I would have thought if there was a God then there'd be a little more order, or consistency to everything, not just the random grab bag of happenings that we try to make sense of.
That said, I am friends with a lot of religious people, and one of the things I like most about many of them is their faith, and how it informs how they see the world.
And I am very disappointing with how atheism in the last five or so years has swung so heavily away from just not believing to feeling a need to actively disparage the beliefs of others.
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Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
My view on religion is that anything we can come up with is inevitably wrong. The things that religion seeks to address are fundamentally beyond our comprehension. We are wired to hunt prey, reproduce, evade predators. Not puzzle out the nature of "god(s)". If there is any kind of higher power, deity, universal entity, it would be so utterly alien to us that we would never be able to wrap our tiny carbon-based minds around it. If we can think it and picture it in our minds, it's wrong. Any explanation for anything that we could ever come up with is so anthropomorphized that it is impossible for it to be the truth.
Example:
We know that there are dimensions beyond the three we know and live in, yet we cannot picture things in more than three dimensions. That is because you only have to be able to see a saber tooth tiger pouncing at you in three dimension to avoid it. Or see a wooly mammoth in three dimensions to throw a stick at it. There is no evolutionary advantage to us seeing the tiger or the mammoth in 5, 6, or 10 dimensions, otherwise we would be able to. That's not what we are wired for, and thus why we will never understand this crazy stuff.
I'm Jewish, closer to agnostic Judaism though. Any questions on Judaic teachings ask away
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MagickalMemories wrote:How about making another fist?
One can be, "Da Fist uv Mork" and the second can be, "Da Uvver Fist uv Mork."
Make a third, and it can be, "Da Uvver Uvver Fist uv Mork"
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