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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 20:59:39
Subject: Theism and Atheism
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Flashy Flashgitz
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Hey, thought I'd start up another debate thread seeing as everyone seemed to enjoy the last one; I know I did!
My question is: do you believe in a god (of any sort) or are an atheist? Or a complete agnostic?
I personally go down the route of deism.
Anyone care to debate?
(PS: I've seen how heated the God debate can get in the past, so while I may have partaken in some quite heated moments in previous treads, I'm going to make an effort to be less volatile, given how much people tend to invest in religious beliefs. I would appreciate everyone else doing the same, and refrained from making any (I'll use the word colourful) remarks. Thanks!)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 21:04:17
Subject: Theism and Atheism
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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This won't end well.
But anyways, I'm a Christian. I believe in God and go to church on a semi-regular basis, but I still believe in things like evolution and the big bang theory.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 21:26:48
Subject: Re:Theism and Atheism
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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I believe in a higher power...
Maybe all the religion in this world is some sort of manifestations of that one higher power.
We are talking about Alanis Morissette, right?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120655/fullcredits#cast
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 21:33:12
Subject: Theism and Atheism
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Oberstleutnant
Back in the English morass
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How can you be a complete agnostic?
I am an atheist. I also disbelive in all forms of spirituality, the healing power of crystals and quackery in general.
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The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 21:38:02
Subject: Theism and Atheism
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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Christian.
Gotta say though. Being in the club kind of sucks these days. They got rid of the free punch at the functions cause they're too busy going on about gay marriage or something.
I just want my punch bro...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 21:46:03
Subject: Theism and Atheism
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon
Tied and gagged in the back of your car
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Agnostic atheist.
...well... there's not much to discuss here then...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 21:50:03
Subject: Theism and Atheism
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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Atheist here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 21:56:55
Subject: Theism and Atheism
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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Athiest.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 22:00:56
Subject: Theism and Atheism
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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LordofHats wrote:Christian.
Gotta say though. Being in the club kind of sucks these days. They got rid of the free punch at the functions cause they're too busy going on about gay marriage or something.
I just want my punch bro...
 wait... seriously?!?
I hope that punch is worth it...
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 22:03:39
Subject: Theism and Atheism
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
USA
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No lol
I'm just being sarcastic about the punch. Mostly an analogy there that I wish some Christians would just let live so I wouldn't have to deal with the fall out of their behavior.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 22:07:49
Subject: Theism and Atheism
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I don't believe in God, but recently, having been translating the Gospel of John from the original Greek, I've been thinking about Christianity and what Jesus had to say about the world.
I'm still atheist, but I don't know...atheist Christian?
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Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 22:09:10
Subject: Theism and Atheism
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
On your roof with a laptop
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I doubt this will end very well..
But while I'm here, Atheist.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 22:13:00
Subject: Theism and Atheism
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Building a blood in water scent
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Agnostic. I'm going with a wait-and-see approach.
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We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 22:17:36
Subject: Theism and Atheism
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
USA
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Testify wrote:I'm still atheist, but I don't know...atheist Christian?
Just cause there's a religion about doesn't mean there wasn't anything worthwhile said. Take and leave what suits you imo. Its what most people do
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 23:20:17
Subject: Theism and Atheism
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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LordofHats wrote:Testify wrote:I'm still atheist, but I don't know...atheist Christian?
Just cause there's a religion about doesn't mean there wasn't anything worthwhile said. Take and leave what suits you imo. Its what most people do
Yeah, the moment I realised what religion actually *is*, and what it always has been, was when I started wondering.
There were plenty of people in the middle ages who denied the existance of God yet were stalward Christians. I know many catholics who don't give a gak about virgin birth or papal infallability.
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Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 23:23:22
Subject: Theism and Atheism
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Devout Atheist... work that one out
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 23:35:29
Subject: Theism and Atheism
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon
Tied and gagged in the back of your car
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Formosa wrote:Devout Atheist... work that one out
How about born again atheist, practicing troublemaker?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 23:37:49
Subject: Re:Theism and Atheism
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Devout Atheist... work that one out
Only time you find religion is when someone trying hard to kill you and your only armed with chopsticks?
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Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog
Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
DE 6700
Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.
Jihadin, Scorched Earth 791. Leader of the Pork Eating Crusader. Alpha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 23:38:18
Subject: Re:Theism and Atheism
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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How 'bout "The Church of What's Happening Now?"!
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 23:52:15
Subject: Re:Theism and Atheism
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Bah church...Pantheon where its at  I declare all next week Bacchus Week
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Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog
Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
DE 6700
Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.
Jihadin, Scorched Earth 791. Leader of the Pork Eating Crusader. Alpha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/13 00:10:21
Subject: Re:Theism and Atheism
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Focused Fire Warrior
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In before the lock!!
Not directed at anyone above me, just betting on how things go in these threads. We should just sticky the best religious thread and when someone wants to make a thread on religion have them read the saved one as punishment! It is not like the same arguments do not get thrown around/avoided on a consistent basis.
But in the spirit of the thread, I am an atheist. I have no beef with religion it just has never seemed valid to me.
Next week Bacchus week? Can we settle on Dionysus? Greek vs Roman!
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Ikasarete Iru
Graffiti from Pompeii: VIII.2 (in the basilica); 1882: The one who buggers a fire burns his penis
Xenophanes: "If horses had Gods, they would look like horses!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/13 00:23:26
Subject: Re:Theism and Atheism
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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J-Roc77 wrote:Next week Bacchus week? Can we settle on Dionysus? Greek vs Roman!
The Romans stole their Gods from the Greeks...
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Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/13 00:25:29
Subject: Theism and Atheism
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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Bacchus? Pfht. Get a real diety.
I give you Sanguine, the Daedric Prince of hard partying
Look at that troll face
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/13 00:25:44
Subject: Re:Theism and Atheism
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The Romans stole their Gods from the Greeks...
We have the Coliseum though  bring on the gladiators!!
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Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog
Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
DE 6700
Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.
Jihadin, Scorched Earth 791. Leader of the Pork Eating Crusader. Alpha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/13 00:30:51
Subject: Re:Theism and Atheism
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Pantheist.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/13 00:33:49
Subject: Theism and Atheism
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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You know, we get all caught up on the whole monotheism and polytheism thing, but can't we just give henotheism a try? For the children.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/13 00:36:01
Subject: Theism and Atheism
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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LordofHats wrote:You know, we get all caught up on the whole monotheism and polytheism thing, but can't we just give henotheism a try? For the children.
I will admit my knowledge of Greek failed and I had to google that.
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Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/13 00:45:59
Subject: Theism and Atheism
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
USA
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Fun Fact: Ancient Judaism, like most Mesopotamian religious traditions, was originally Henotheistic.
The more you know
I actually completely forgot that word for about 4 years trying to remember it and it totally just now came back to me
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/13 00:46:16
Subject: Re:Theism and Atheism
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Dakka Veteran
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That's "traditional" judaism right there. Not "my God is the only God" but "my God is better than your God". Won't solve any problems. Could be fun, though.
I'm a deist. A good author does not appear in their work.
What I think we need in the world is more cults. Evil cults, that do ritual sacrifices and stuff. When a major religion does violence because of their religion we have to take them seriously and say "oh, they're just extremists." I don't like it.
Edit: Ninja'd
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/13 00:50:30
Subject: Theism and Atheism
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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Speaking of Cults, why can't there be any that just end well you know? Why we gotta spike the punch with rat poison and cyanide culties? Can't we just mix in some Mike's Hard Lemonade and make it about flowers and rainbows or something?
Don't gotta get into the whole mass suicide, or hold up against the FBI and ATF thing guys. I mean, if your gonna be 'non-conformist' how about actually being different from all the other cults?
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