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Testify wrote:

BlueDagger wrote:
"always strike at I1" is telling you which initiative set you strike at

Yes, by setting it to 1. How is this difficult?

The initiative is not set at 1. If something required you to take an Initiative Test at while the Quickening was up and you were wielding a Power Axe, the Initiative Test would be done on the I value of 10. The Power Axe does not change your Initiative value to "1," only changes when you strike during Assault. Quickening, on the other hand, actually changes the model's Initiative value.

Haunter! wrote:

Redemption wrote:Also, the rule specifically states you attack at Initiative step 1, which is not the same as being Initiative 1.

Haunter! wrote:
Unwieldy does not change the model's initiative, it will still make pile-in moves and initiative tests at the value in its profile. When making attacks with an unwieldy weapon, all attacks are made at initiative 1 during that combat subphase. Again, the model's initiative value does NOT change.

Wouldn't you also pile-in at I1, as you pile-in on the Initiative Step you attack in?

No. Pile in moves are resolved at the model's initiative value, not what it strikes at. Unwieldy weapons only effect the initiative the model strikes at, anything else is resolved with the initiative in the model's profile.

This means a Space Marine Sergent with an unwieldy weapon would pile in at initiative 4, but strike blows at initiative 1 during the combat sub-phase.

Not true, the 2 pages together make it clear that Initiative step pile in and the point at which you make your strikes are equivalent. A SM with powerfist piles in and strikes at I1

Otherwise, GKs with Halberd would attack before they could pile-in.

Well, Halberds modify your actual I value(while using them) So either way they pile in at I+2.

Grey Templar wrote:Well, Halberds modify your actual I value(while using them) So either way they pile in at I+2.

No they do not, they make you strike at +2 Initiative. (P.54 GK Codex)