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Mannahnin wrote:Right, he's falling into a classic logical fallacy. Just because a = b does not mean "not a" = "not b".

Hammerhand clearly shows that the same psychic power cast multiple times can indeed stack. In light of that, the reminder about stacking in the BRB psychic rules does indeed seem more likely to be an allowance for stacking multiple castings.

this.. for the first part.

Agreed but still RAI

Pyrian wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:

Pyrian wrote:
"...different maledictions are always cumulative..." sounds very much like "the same malediction is not cumulative" to me.

Which is a logical fallacy.

Logic? This is semantics. I'm not merely inferring it, it's clearly implied.

according to you, it is implied. According to others, it might not be, and the subsequent argument as a result of different interpretations creates friction and in the game *see thread* (though this one is pretty tame for now )

Therefore, RAW is the safest bet, and I believe there is no rule preventing the stacking of powers (even enfeebling below t 1, though that would simply result in your power resolving, and the effect doing nothing, because it is prohibited from doing so iirc).

There also seems to be nothing stating that powers of the same type can stack, which is where RAW starts failing us all... I'm having trouble finding the page where it lists the actual psychic powers can someone point to the BRB page?

there is still no answer for this. kinda aggravating.

First off hammerhand is a blessing, not malediction and has a specific rule/faq so anything to do with that for this discussion is RAI. Remember FAQs and dexes overrule the BRB.

Please tell me what

Note that bonuses and penalties from different maledictions are always cumulative,

this means if not different psychic powers, and why else is the word different in there?

A psychic power has a type malediction. Enfeeble is a psychic power. Enfeeble is a Malediction. Notice how the rules for psychic powers refer to the psychic power not an instance (actual casting) of it.
Therefore the word different must mean a separate psychic power. An example of this is combining enfeeble with Gift of Contagion. If you rolled a 3 (on a d3) then you effectively have stacked enfeeble but it's a different psychic power.

If the word different wasn't there... then it would read, "Note that bonuses and penalties from maledictions are always cumulative," which would clearly mean that you can use enfeeble twice on the same unit.

that is correct, you cannot stack the same malediction, you can only stack different maledictions.

again, some people will argue that different is some meaning less word...

and they would be wrong

easysauce wrote:
that is correct, you cannot stack the same malediction, you can only stack different maledictions.

again, some people will argue that different is some meaningless word...

and they would be wrong

Just because we are talking about the meaning behind words.... IFIFY

Hopefully this will end any real debate.