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 fullheadofhair wrote:

 pixelpusher wrote:
I cant really afford to invest in another system... but I guess I will have to cave in now that the plastic infantry models look as amazing as they do.

Anyone want to buy a kidney? Spleen? I have 10 toes for sale as well!

I am amazed everytime I see a post like this. There are multiple companies that sell 15mm models far far cheaper than BF do and the casting has usually been better. Plastic Soldier has been doing shermans in plastic for the last year @ 5 for $30 and have a growing number of plastic armies. I believe you can pick up 100 plastic 15mm russian and german solders for $26-30 and 16 heavy weapon teams for around $25.

BF have no control on WW2 imagery. People need to use a bit of commonsense and not rely on the rip-offs that BF constantly do.

I'm amazed every time I see a post like this. Don't underestimate the power of a one stop shop-solution. (If BF sold glue I would buy that together with the new copy of Weiße Zwerg, honestly.)
Checked out the PSC-stuff long ago, but couldn't really figure out what was what and what I needed. Some stuff wasn't avaliable etc. etc. The new plastic infantry from BF also looks better than what I saw on PSC. IIRC

So... any bids on my kidney(s)?

Seems they learned from Plastic Soldier and released cheaper tanks.
And finally Infantry miniatures that look human. Like the direction.

Oh wow! Those are infinitely better than metal/ resin ones.

I was severely hoping FOW would go plastic. Does anyone know if this will continue across their entire range?

 Kroothawk wrote:
Seems they learned from Plastic Soldier and released cheaper tanks.
And finally Infantry miniatures that look human. Like the direction.

Right.. not sure if it's a case of 'McDonalds hamburger in the photo, looks better than the real thing' or not, but those look stunning.

I've got masses of the older metal guys, and these look like a vast improvement. The pumpkin heads have gone, for one thing..

The previous mini rule books were easy to read. This game isn't hard, but requires a lot more tactics.

 pixelpusher wrote:

 fullheadofhair wrote:

 pixelpusher wrote:
I cant really afford to invest in another system... but I guess I will have to cave in now that the plastic infantry models look as amazing as they do.

Anyone want to buy a kidney? Spleen? I have 10 toes for sale as well!

I am amazed everytime I see a post like this. There are multiple companies that sell 15mm models far far cheaper than BF do and the casting has usually been better. Plastic Soldier has been doing shermans in plastic for the last year @ 5 for $30 and have a growing number of plastic armies. I believe you can pick up 100 plastic 15mm russian and german solders for $26-30 and 16 heavy weapon teams for around $25.

BF have no control on WW2 imagery. People need to use a bit of commonsense and not rely on the rip-offs that BF constantly do.

I'm amazed every time I see a post like this. Don't underestimate the power of a one stop shop-solution. (If BF sold glue I would buy that together with the new copy of Weiße Zwerg, honestly.)
Checked out the PSC-stuff long ago, but couldn't really figure out what was what and what I needed. Some stuff wasn't avaliable etc. etc. The new plastic infantry from BF also looks better than what I saw on PSC. IIRC

So... any bids on my kidney(s)?

They do have their own glue and hobby supplies. GF9 = Battlefront,

 Moopy wrote:
Oh wow! Those are infinitely better than metal/ resin ones.

I was severely hoping FOW would go plastic. Does anyone know if this will continue across their entire range?

They basically had to go plastic, PSC were severely undercutting them (and probably still will be) and allegedly PSC are having a significant impact on BF's sales.

I'm not 100% sold on these. The Shermans don't look to be as detailed as the PSC ones (although if they have stronger gun barrels than the PSC kits , especially the 17 pounder, I would probably still use them) while the infantry look OK but nothing special.

I wouldn't put too much value on the mini rulebook unless they have rectified some serious quality issues since the 'free' mini book release. The pages were literally falling out of mine before I had even read it.

PSC = Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center?

Plastic Soldier Company

 fullheadofhair wrote:

 pixelpusher wrote:
I cant really afford to invest in another system... but I guess I will have to cave in now that the plastic infantry models look as amazing as they do.

Anyone want to buy a kidney? Spleen? I have 10 toes for sale as well!

I am amazed everytime I see a post like this. There are multiple companies that sell 15mm models far far cheaper than BF do and the casting has usually been better. Plastic Soldier has been doing shermans in plastic for the last year @ 5 for $30 and have a growing number of plastic armies. I believe you can pick up 100 plastic 15mm russian and german solders for $26-30 and 16 heavy weapon teams for around $25.

BF have no control on WW2 imagery. People need to use a bit of commonsense and not rely on the rip-offs that BF constantly do.

Prices aren't that bad. For the US reals its $80 bucks or so. For the UK its 45 pounds. IMHO that's a really great deal.

According to Battlefront staff on their forums the price is as follows;
UK₤ Price £50.00
Euro€ Price €60.00
US$ Price $70.00
Aus$ Price $80.00
NZ$ Price $95.00

Highly tempting

nvm posted in the wrong thread

 wana10 wrote:
According to Battlefront staff on their forums the price is as follows;
Euro€ Price €60.00

Wow, that's not as bad as I feared it to be.

This looks very interesting!
Can some one tell me about this game? How easy are the rules to learn, how long do games the size of the starter set last, and would this be a good game to try to get my family to start playing? (my brothers refuse to even try warhammer because the rules are "too complicated")
Thanks!

No more complicated than 40k. There are only three ratings for units ability conscript, trained and veteran; and three for morale.

Weapons and vehicles have only three stats. So that side is pretty straight forward too.

There are plenty of special rules too.

All in all it is very similar to 40k but with a historical bent. Look on the Battlefront forum here for more detail, this question has been asked many time there.

 notprop wrote:

All in all it is very similar to 40k but with a historical bent. Look on the Battlefront forum here for more detail, this question has been asked many time there.

The game plays quite differently and it has a much greater degree of tactical depth than 40k but it was written by ex GW staff and they were clearly influenced by GW. Its a good introductory historical ruleset.

A 700 point game can be finished within an hour and the rules are easy to learn.

Yeah, it's often described as a "wargame with a historical setting" than a "historical wargame".

If you want to keep it simple and flud stick to tanks. After that add guns and then infantry.

That set looks amazing!

Thank God I held off on buying infantry and anti-tank guns for my late war germans.

This is a great move by BF. It is certainly going to make it easier to get some new blood in the FoW community as well.

Now this, this is something I could split 50/50 with my friend who wants to start FoW. As long as I get the allies.

I mentioned before, I already have all the US/German FoW I need, however....

The value of this box can't be denied and the price point makes entry into FoW pretty easy.

I almost see this set as a really nice Boardgame and could almost be played as such.

$70 is nothing for a good Boardgame, it has a lot of plastic, and some quickstart rules will get people into battle quick.

Glue everything together, play on the dining room table with various items as terrain, wrap it up in a couple hours.

Very solid set and idea from BF. I hope it nets them more players.

I just realized that possibly the battle report they made for the bootcamp tutorials use the models from the new started set:
http://www.flamesofwar.com/Default.aspx?tabid=106
(video 14)

Actually they even offered FoW to GW and they declined since they decided that "not enough people would play such a game".

@mini-rules
The day I got it got cut off the spine and got it ringbound. That's the only way to use this book. BF should deliver all minis ringbound from the beginning on.

New pics

Always wanted to try FOW, this may be what puts me over the edge. Does it come with whippy stick rulers?

I have to say, the plastic infantry looks awesome. I guess there will be a lot of pressure to do,more variants in the future. It's nice that Battlefront has apparently taken some of their shortcomings to heart and produced models that try to rectify them. Competition from Plastic Soldier Company can't have gone unnoticed, either. Here's hoping we can see more plastics in FoW to come.

 Moopy wrote:

I wouldn't put too much value on the mini rulebook unless they have rectified some serious quality issues since the 'free' mini book release. The pages were literally falling out of mine before I had even read it.

Their mini rulebooks do tend to come apart with use but that really isn't an issue for me. The first thing I did with mine was take it to the local office supply store and have it spiral bound so it lays flat on the table. Super cheap and makes the book really easy to use during game time. Also, if you like you can have the front and back covers laminated to protect the book from rough handling when you get it spiral bound.

My lack of interest in WW2 is a shame when i see something like this... such nice models

Amazing minis*. Pity it's Americans vs Germans and no Brits though. Guess, I'll have play the Germans when I buy this set

*Considering the scale

There's British armour to support the GI's. Two platoons worth infact.