IG list 2k points (help please)

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**Griddlelol**

Looks great! Throw a sniper rifle on the CCS for 5pts.

Good luck with it!

**Battle Brother Lucifer**

CSS: Regimental Standard, LC, Astropath, sniper 120

10x stormies - 2x flamers 175
5x stormies - 2x meltas 105
Marbo - 65

PCS - 4x flamers 50
3x infantry squad:
- autocannon, meltagun 70
- autocannon, meltagun 70
- autocannon, meltagun 70
2x SWS:
- Demo, flamer, flamer 65
- Demo, flamer, flamer 65

Vet Squad
Harker, 3x plasma, demolitions 200

Leman Russ Extecutioner - PC sponons, pintle mounted heavy stubber/storm bolter 240
Leman Russ Extecutioner - PC sponons, pintle mounted heavy stubber/storm bolter 240
Griffon - enclosed crew compartment, pintle mounted heavy stubber/stormbolter 100

Vendetta 130
Vendetta 130

ADL 100
- quad gun

total 1995 again, does this look any good or is it a better idea for another troop or something rather than tank upgrades and marbo?

**Blaggard**

I think the pintle mounts aren't required. You can get rid of them and give harker camo cloaks for a 2+ to cover, or also dropping the melta hedge + marbo for another 5* storm troopers, or dropping the pintles, enclosed crew and the sniper for another IS w/ AC.

**UMGuy**

I prefer the list you had on the other page. The griffon should be completely hidden behind a piece of terrain. Remember if it is being shot at and the armor facing the unit should be shooting at (ie front) is not visible it gains +1 to its cover save.

The pintle mounted weapons dont add much to this list either. They are not that good, I guess they do add additional wounds, but you launching 5 plasma blasts at a unit, that unit is as good as dead.

Also, Marbo. "Youre my boy, Marbo", but ST are better, especially in numbers. They are super survivable when you drop 20 of them on your opponent, hopefully in the same turn.

I also dont like your vet squad, maybe it is just me, but thats 200 poiints on a unit that a single round from a colossis (sp?) can take out.

I would almost follow Blaggard's suggestion and rock another IS. So that you can get some more scoring units.

Basically, I see your strategy, and I agree this list is well thought through and that you have all of your bases covered, just be weary of the things that can cause this list to go horribly wrong.

And after reviewing this and thinking about my latest games, I might be adding a colossis to my list. Haha

**Battle Brother Lucifer**

would you recommend another platoon? I could drop Harker's squad and make a decent platoon with the points

**Blaggard**

Platoon for 260 points?
PCS, 4* Flamer, 50
IS, AC, Melta, 70
IS, AC, Melta, 70
IS, AC, Melta, 70

Hey, it works... Although with that I'd be tempted to throw away all those melta's and get another IS w/ AC...

**UMGuy**

Honestly, I am not sure. I find myself going back to my old type of list in 5th, a platoon with IS's with additional support from a second CCS as well as a few vet squads. To give you an idea of what I am talking about, what I will be trying out next game I play looks like this:

CCS-AC Standard
CCS-3X Plas, Standard, Carapace
Marbo
ST-7 ST's total, 2X Plas
IS
PCS-3X Flamer
IS-MG, AC
IS-MG, AC
IS-MG, AC
SWS-Demo, 2X Flamer (something I got from you/this thread. Sounds like a blast to field)
SWS-Demo, 2X Flamer
Vets-3X Melta, shotties, grenadiers
Vets-3X Plas, grenadiers
Vendetta
Vendetta
Colossus
Executioner-PC Sponsons
Exterminator-PC Sponsons (This guy has done NOTHING for me in any game I have ever used him, but I refuse to let his poor performance on the table deter me from taking him. He is good, I just roll horribly with him)
ADL-Quad gun

For the 200 points you spent on Harker's squad, that could be 2 vets with melta guns. Find some more points you can give them carapace or plasma guns. Or, as was mentioned, a 2nd IS. I think you are going to have to play it out and see how it goes. For the ADL and the CCS that is there, you really want to minimize the units that you base around that thing. It is far too easy to get carried away and make it a focus for your opponent.

**Blaggard**

I'd say instead of a second CCS, get a Lord Commisar sitting on the quad gun in a squad. Stubborn bubble + Regimental bubble can help.

**Battle Brother Lucifer**

UMGuy wrote:Honestly, I am not sure. I find myself going back to my old type of list in 5th, a platoon with IS's with additional support from a second CCS as well as a few vet squads. To give you an idea of what I am talking about, what I will be trying out next game I play looks like this:

CCS-AC Standard
CCS-3X Plas, Standard, Carapace
Marbo
ST-7 ST's total, 2X Plas
IS
PCS-3X Flamer
IS-MG, AC
IS-MG, AC
IS-MG, AC
SWS-Demo, 2X Flamer (something I got from you/this thread. Sounds like a blast to field)
SWS-Demo, 2X Flamer
Vets-3X Melta, shotties, grenadiers
Vets-3X Plas, grenadiers
Vendetta
Vendetta
Colossus
Executioner-PC Sponsons
Exterminator-PC Sponsons (This guy has done NOTHING for me in any game I have ever used him, but I refuse to let his poor performance on the table deter me from taking him. He is good, I just roll horribly with him)
ADL-Quad gun

For the 200 points you spent on Harker's squad, that could be 2 vets with melta guns. Find some more points you can give them carapace or plasma guns. Or, as was mentioned, a 2nd IS. I think you are going to have to play it out and see how it goes. For the ADL and the CCS that is there, you really want to minimize the units that you base around that thing. It is far too easy to get carried away and make it a focus for your opponent.

I really like this list, I might have to check back with the one I have now and change it accordingly

Blaggard wrote:I'd say instead of a second CCS, get a Lord Commisar sitting on the quad gun in a squad. Stubborn bubble + Regimental bubble can help.

I've heard this works well, what would you recommend the 1 CSS to have?