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 Boneblade wrote:
So lets sum up.

1) No Marks or any statline benefits
2) No access to a majority of wargear options
3) Not EW
4) Not a Champion of Chaos so no Boons Table rolling
5) Not even T6 like nearly every other MC in the game

At 145 points base the Daemon Princes can jolly well stay in the Warp until 7th edition. Shore leave shall only occur when one of my gribbly Champions rolls a 65 or 66

Or as happened to me, you'll lose your Sorcerer because he got the Prince upgrade in the middle of a crowded battle with orks and he'll die due to not being able to be placed.

nightsorrow wrote:
and abby has to be your warlord if he is in ur army to no outflanking him

Ah true, oh well he was too many points anyway. Guess I will just take Kharn and 20 CSM with MOK/IOK and infiltrate them next to something juicy.

Also note that Huron doesn't allow any unit to Outflank.

1) Huron allows d3 units to Infiltrate.
2) Units with the Infiltrate special rule can Outflank.
3) Since Huron doesn't confer the rule, only allows them to Infiltrate, they don't have Outflank.

Or, I could be completely wrong...

somerandomdude wrote:
Also note that Huron doesn't allow any unit to Outflank.

1) Huron allows d3 units to Infiltrate.
2) Units with the Infiltrate special rule can Outflank.
3) Since Huron doesn't confer the rule, only allows them to Infiltrate, they don't have Outflank.

How does "Nominate D3 infantry units in your army before deployment. Those units gain the infiltrate special rule." only allow them to infiltrate? If they have the infiltrate special rule and are in a dedicated transport they can outflank.

Because I keep reading the wrong part of the codex. Reference sections are sometimes a bad thing.

What about spawning a prince with no mark?

An unmarked champ wins a challenge and gets dark apotheosis. Just an unmarked prince now I suppose.

Also I'll be pissed when I roll spawnhood on abby

 dontfeedjay wrote:
What about spawning a prince with no mark?

An unmarked champ wins a challenge and gets dark apotheosis. Just an unmarked prince now I suppose.

Also I'll be pissed when I roll spawnhood on abby

That's why he needs a dark apostle wingman.

Hoo boy, did this thread get derailed.

To answer the original question, this is now in the FAQ - the Axe of Blind Fury can now be taken by "Daemons of Khorne" as well.

 Super Ready wrote:
Hoo boy, did this thread get derailed.

To answer the original question, this is now in the FAQ - the Axe of Blind Fury can now be taken by "Daemons of Khorne" as well.

Super Readn is correct the Axe of Blind Fury can now be taken by "Daemons of Khorne"

Even though Daemons of Khorne have no mark.

Why on earth do they keep DP from having marks?

What about the Faq?
Page 69 – Axe of Blind Fury
Change first rules sentence to ‘Models with the Mark of Khorne, or Daemons of Khorne, only.’
Aren't they Daemons of Khorne?

 Lobukia wrote:
Why on earth do they keep DP from having marks?

Presumably because being T6 would be overpowered...

 dontfeedjay wrote:
Also I'll be pissed when I roll spawnhood on abby

If that happened to me when I use Abaddon, I would die from laughter

on topic : yes khorne daemon prince can take the axe of blind fury according to FAQ

nosferatu1001 wrote:

 Lobukia wrote:
Why on earth do they keep DP from having marks?

Presumably because being T6 would be overpowered...

but a toughness 6 model thats cheaper with a 2+ armor save and actually has good guns is completely cool?

 Overlord Zerrtin wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:

 Lobukia wrote:
Why on earth do they keep DP from having marks?

Presumably because being T6 would be overpowered...

but a toughness 6 model thats cheaper with a 2+ armor save and actually has good guns is completely cool?

Well yeah! Of course it is, because you most likely ALREADY own the Demon Prince....but you have to buy the shiny new super toys. Look at the defiler, increased points cost in what is probably the most clogged section of the book, why....because people already own them so why keep them as a "good" choice? Make them worse or at least not as good as the other choices and people buy models. This goes along with the zombie argument, if anyone lacked true common sense to understand you could increase their size, look at it from this aspect, would GW really restrict you to putting (i.e. buying) 30 zombies when they could sell you 300? Come on......

I'd argue that being a Slaanesh Daemon brings more benefit to the Prince than a plain Mark would - but the others are all inferior. Perhaps it was seen as too powerful to give a Daemon Prince +1T, perhaps it was to avoid any word debates with trying to apply the Tzeentch +1 Save to zooming FMCs. I do know there is one rule that wouldn't work without the Daemon wording, though - the hatred for other Daemons. This covers not just the Princes, but sizable chunks of the Daemon codex as well.

+1 to inv has nothing to do wit hyour cover save when flying.

Do FMC get a jink or is that just flying vehicles?

FMCs can Jink as well, yes

rigeld2 wrote:
FMCs can Jink as well, yes

To be exact, FMC can Dive, which gives them Jink. But that means FMC can only make Snapshot until the end of its next turn.

Either way, the new daemon princes are sick, no matter what...

You can take the axe now according to the Faq.

Esparoba3
2012/10/21 17:52:03 Subject: Reaemon Prince has no mark ?
dontfeedjay wrote:
Also I'll be pissed when I roll spawnhood on abby


If that happened to me when I use Abaddon, I would die from laughter

Me too. I actually want this to happen to my characters at some point for pure humour reasons.

But still can't take scroll of Magnus :( however Iron Arm DP, with re-rolling ones (armor saves), and tz psychers casting boon of mutilation and praying for the exalted champion warlord trait, yes please.

Plus a flying s4 ap3 torrent soul blaze template isn't bad either.