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 Arrathon wrote:
How are you turn 1 striking with vendettas, their a flier and must start in reserve. Unless thier on the table as a fast skimmer?

Because I derped and completely forgot about that rule. Fast skimmer is an idea though, but makes it far more vulnerable.


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tankboy145 wrote:
stormies with melta guns and the infamous MARBO!

This man, He gets it.

Directly comparing a Vanquisher to a Vendetta is like comparing a Penal Legion Squad to a Rough Rider squad. They move differently, shoot differently, and are nowhere near close in power level. As far as I know, the Vanquisher is pretty overpriced for what it does. The thing it suffers from the most is BS3, which only allows it to hit 2-3 times per game if it gets to shoot every turn. Then it also has to penetrate AND roll well on the damage table, provided that the opponent fails his cover save. The damage output of the Vanquisher is so laughably low that it should rather cost something like 130 points, because right now, the regular LRBT is almost as good as killing armor. I think they really should have kept the two different firing modes as that would have made it somewhat viable as a tank.

Just so everyone knows..i know diddly squat about IG. So..no need for the talk about how can i possibly compare the two. But i do have my awnser ten times over now ty very much. list made and models bought thanks for the help folks

We all gotta start somewhere dude, no worries

 liquidjoshi wrote:

Dude, we're talking about IG here, not GK. as a player of both, I'll keep to my Vendettas for anti tank. Don't forget they have scout too, so turn one alpha strikes are still pretty good. I think Air Cav Guard is still competitive.

If you check page 4 of the Imperial Guard FAQ, it states that the Scout USR on Valkyries and Vendettas has no effect.

Q: What effect, if any, does the Scout special rule have on a Valkyrie or
Vendetta? Will this allow it to enter play in Turn 1 by redeploying 6"
onto the board? (p56)
A: It has no effect.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2570044a_Imperial_Guard_v1.1.pdf

It gives it the Outflank special rule.

Valks and Vendettas still have Scout, it just gives them Outflank.

Oh your right... Ty Templar!

Yes another reason why Vendettas are undercosted.

 Grey Templar wrote:
It gives it the Outflank special rule.

Valks and Vendettas still have Scout, it just gives them Outflank.

If you say so, I read it as It has no effect. Gaining outflank from scout would be an effect and would go directly against the FAQ.

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
It gives it the Outflank special rule.

Valks and Vendettas still have Scout, it just gives them Outflank.

If you say so, I read it as It has no effect. Gaining outflank from scout would be an effect and would go directly against the FAQ.

You're ignoring the entire question that was asked in FAQ. The question asked was does the Scout rule allow the Vend/Valk to be deployed on the tabletop. The ruling for that question is that scout has no effect for that specific instance. You're reading too broadly into that FAQ.

Glocknall wrote:

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
It gives it the Outflank special rule.

Valks and Vendettas still have Scout, it just gives them Outflank.

If you say so, I read it as It has no effect. Gaining outflank from scout would be an effect and would go directly against the FAQ.

You're ignoring the entire question that was asked in FAQ. The question asked was does the Scout rule allow the Vend/Valk to be deployed on the tabletop. The ruling for that question is that scout has no effect for that specific instance. You're reading too broadly into that FAQ.

Considering the FAQ has 2 Questions in it. One of which asks what effects the scout rule has on the Vendetta, than a further question.
Not really reading too much into it I just see 2 questions with 1 answer.

Scout does diddly for the Vendetta according to the FAQ

Q: What effect, if any, does the Scout special rule have on a Valkyrie or
Vendetta? Will this allow it to enter play in Turn 1 by redeploying 6"
onto the board? (p56)
A: It has no effect.

Note there are two sentences above, not one.