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2012/11/03 11:22:24
Subject: New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Yay! Thank you! To start off, I will get a captain on a bike, a land speeder, a couple of bike box's, a drop pod, terminators. Sound good?
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To start off, I will get a captain on a bike, a couple of bike box's, a land speeder, terminators, and a drop pod. Sound good?
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Warhammer 40K Commandments 1. Thou shalt not refer to the Adepta Soritas as "Bolter Bitches." 2. Orks are not "cute." 3. Thou shalt not make jokes about the Imperial Guard's weapons. 4. Thou shalt not replace the Librarian's staff with a magic wand. 5. Thou shalt not tip the Terminators over during battle. 6. Thou shalt not do Spock impersonations around Eldar. 7. C-3P0 is not a Necron ambassador. 8. Thou shalt not pay someone an Imperial to eat that Squig. 9. No, you cannot "Take the Titan for a spin." 10. Thou shalt not use thy multi-meltas to light campfires. (in a similar manner, thou shalt not use the Terminator Captain's chainfist to open tins of baked beans) 11. Thou shalt not bribe the Inquisitor to bring down Exterminatus on your ex-wife. 12. Thou shalt not refer to the Rhino transports as "pimp wagons," nor shalt thou use the phrase, "If the Rhino be rockin, don't come a knockin." 13. The Chapter Master is not a "drag." 14. Thou shall not use Power Swords to cut your food. 15. Thou shall not ask a Sister if you might, "Donate some of your own Gene-Seed." 16. Thou shall not throw soap at nurglings. 17. Thou shalt not put a "kick me" sign on the Golden Throne. 18. Thou shalt not refer to the Machine Spirit as "Cruise Control". 19. Thou shalt not stick a 'Honk if you think I'm sexy' sticker on the Sisters' Rhino. 21. Thou shalt not unplug the Golden Throne just "for laughs". 22. Thou shalt not make the Emperor read your palms, or call upon him as "Miss Cleo". |
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2012/11/03 11:25:11
Subject: New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings
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 PsykerInTheWarp wrote:Yay! Thank you! To start off, I will get a captain on a bike, a land speeder, a couple of bike box's, a drop pod, terminators. Sound good?
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To start off, I will get a captain on a bike, a couple of bike box's, a land speeder, terminators, and a drop pod. Sound good?
Sounds good. However, if you do the termies, you'd have no use for the drop pod, as termies can't go into those.
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2012/11/03 11:36:10
Subject: New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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... Oh. How would I get my termies up fast then?
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How about replacing the drop pod with a rhino?
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BA are starting to tempt me more. I Think I'll go for them. I'll get Mephiston, 2 box's of assault marines, a tactical squad, a rhino. Sound good?
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/11/03 11:58:25
Warhammer 40K Commandments 1. Thou shalt not refer to the Adepta Soritas as "Bolter Bitches." 2. Orks are not "cute." 3. Thou shalt not make jokes about the Imperial Guard's weapons. 4. Thou shalt not replace the Librarian's staff with a magic wand. 5. Thou shalt not tip the Terminators over during battle. 6. Thou shalt not do Spock impersonations around Eldar. 7. C-3P0 is not a Necron ambassador. 8. Thou shalt not pay someone an Imperial to eat that Squig. 9. No, you cannot "Take the Titan for a spin." 10. Thou shalt not use thy multi-meltas to light campfires. (in a similar manner, thou shalt not use the Terminator Captain's chainfist to open tins of baked beans) 11. Thou shalt not bribe the Inquisitor to bring down Exterminatus on your ex-wife. 12. Thou shalt not refer to the Rhino transports as "pimp wagons," nor shalt thou use the phrase, "If the Rhino be rockin, don't come a knockin." 13. The Chapter Master is not a "drag." 14. Thou shall not use Power Swords to cut your food. 15. Thou shall not ask a Sister if you might, "Donate some of your own Gene-Seed." 16. Thou shall not throw soap at nurglings. 17. Thou shalt not put a "kick me" sign on the Golden Throne. 18. Thou shalt not refer to the Machine Spirit as "Cruise Control". 19. Thou shalt not stick a 'Honk if you think I'm sexy' sticker on the Sisters' Rhino. 21. Thou shalt not unplug the Golden Throne just "for laughs". 22. Thou shalt not make the Emperor read your palms, or call upon him as "Miss Cleo". |
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2012/11/03 12:05:37
Subject: Re:New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Stealthy Dark Angels Scout with Shotgun
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The BA options sounds more like it. Also, the only transport terminators can get into are Land Raiders, and at 250pts they aren't worth it this early in your stage of learning how to Space Marine.
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2012/11/03 12:17:02
Subject: New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Yea. Well, BA it is! Btw, what's the model that turns assault squads into troop choices?
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Warhammer 40K Commandments 1. Thou shalt not refer to the Adepta Soritas as "Bolter Bitches." 2. Orks are not "cute." 3. Thou shalt not make jokes about the Imperial Guard's weapons. 4. Thou shalt not replace the Librarian's staff with a magic wand. 5. Thou shalt not tip the Terminators over during battle. 6. Thou shalt not do Spock impersonations around Eldar. 7. C-3P0 is not a Necron ambassador. 8. Thou shalt not pay someone an Imperial to eat that Squig. 9. No, you cannot "Take the Titan for a spin." 10. Thou shalt not use thy multi-meltas to light campfires. (in a similar manner, thou shalt not use the Terminator Captain's chainfist to open tins of baked beans) 11. Thou shalt not bribe the Inquisitor to bring down Exterminatus on your ex-wife. 12. Thou shalt not refer to the Rhino transports as "pimp wagons," nor shalt thou use the phrase, "If the Rhino be rockin, don't come a knockin." 13. The Chapter Master is not a "drag." 14. Thou shall not use Power Swords to cut your food. 15. Thou shall not ask a Sister if you might, "Donate some of your own Gene-Seed." 16. Thou shall not throw soap at nurglings. 17. Thou shalt not put a "kick me" sign on the Golden Throne. 18. Thou shalt not refer to the Machine Spirit as "Cruise Control". 19. Thou shalt not stick a 'Honk if you think I'm sexy' sticker on the Sisters' Rhino. 21. Thou shalt not unplug the Golden Throne just "for laughs". 22. Thou shalt not make the Emperor read your palms, or call upon him as "Miss Cleo". |
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2012/11/03 12:26:04
Subject: New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings
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PsykerInTheWarp wrote:Yea. Well, BA it is! Btw, what's the model that turns assault squads into troop choices?
None.
They are troops. No character needed for that.
Dante makes Sanguinary Guard troops, however.
Also, do buy a Death Company or Sanguinary Guard box set too.
They are nice (San. Guard are beast  ), and you can kit bash with them a lot.
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2012/11/03 12:47:07
Subject: New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Ok. Any tips got a 1000 point army list? I was thinking assault squads, 2 tactical squads in rhino's, Baal predators, death company OR sanquinary guard, and a Valkyrie . Can you build a list around that? Is it a good idea?
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Warhammer 40K Commandments 1. Thou shalt not refer to the Adepta Soritas as "Bolter Bitches." 2. Orks are not "cute." 3. Thou shalt not make jokes about the Imperial Guard's weapons. 4. Thou shalt not replace the Librarian's staff with a magic wand. 5. Thou shalt not tip the Terminators over during battle. 6. Thou shalt not do Spock impersonations around Eldar. 7. C-3P0 is not a Necron ambassador. 8. Thou shalt not pay someone an Imperial to eat that Squig. 9. No, you cannot "Take the Titan for a spin." 10. Thou shalt not use thy multi-meltas to light campfires. (in a similar manner, thou shalt not use the Terminator Captain's chainfist to open tins of baked beans) 11. Thou shalt not bribe the Inquisitor to bring down Exterminatus on your ex-wife. 12. Thou shalt not refer to the Rhino transports as "pimp wagons," nor shalt thou use the phrase, "If the Rhino be rockin, don't come a knockin." 13. The Chapter Master is not a "drag." 14. Thou shall not use Power Swords to cut your food. 15. Thou shall not ask a Sister if you might, "Donate some of your own Gene-Seed." 16. Thou shall not throw soap at nurglings. 17. Thou shalt not put a "kick me" sign on the Golden Throne. 18. Thou shalt not refer to the Machine Spirit as "Cruise Control". 19. Thou shalt not stick a 'Honk if you think I'm sexy' sticker on the Sisters' Rhino. 21. Thou shalt not unplug the Golden Throne just "for laughs". 22. Thou shalt not make the Emperor read your palms, or call upon him as "Miss Cleo". |
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2012/11/03 12:48:00
Subject: Re:New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings
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A second.
I'll post a list any second for ya.
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2012/11/03 12:52:31
Subject: Re:New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Stealthy Dark Angels Scout with Shotgun
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Librarian (Shield of Sanguinius and Blood Lance): 100
Elite:
Sanguinary Priest: 50
Troops:
5 Man Assault Marine Squad in Las/Plas Razorback: 155
5 Man Assault Marine Squad in Las/Plas Razorback: 155
5 Man Assault Marine Squad in Las/Plas Razorback: 155
5 Man Assault Marine Squad in Las/Plas Razorback: 155
Fast Attack:
Baal Predator: 115
Baal Predator: 115
Total: 1000
Bring this to any Tau player and it would make them rage.
edit: Another list so that it won't kill your wallet dead.
HQ:
Librarian (Shield of Sanguinius and Blood Lance): 100
Elite:
Sanguinary Priest: 50
Troops:
5 Man Assault Marine Squad with Meltagun and Powerfist in Las/Plas Razorback: 190
5 Man Assault Marine Squad with Meltagun and Powerfist in Las/Plas Razorback: 190
5 Man Assault Marine Squad with Meltagun in Las/Plas Razorback: 165
5 Man Assault Marine Squad with Flamer in Las/Plas Razorback: 160
Fast Attack:
Baal Predator with Heavy Bolter Sponsons: 145
Total: 1000
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2012/11/03 12:55:07
Subject: Re:New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings
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HQ:
Captain
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140 pts
Elite:
Sanguinary Guard
200 pts
Sanguinary priest
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75 pts
Troops
10 Tactical Marines
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---Flamer
---Rhino
220 pts
Assault Squad (10 man)
---Plasma pistol
---Melta bombs
200 pts
3 Death company
60 pts
Heavy Support
Dreadnought
105 pts
Is a fun 1000 point list IMHO.
Not the most competetive, but a great start. Both army wise and bits wise 
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2012/11/03 12:57:06
Subject: New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Thank's for the list! Is it a good idea to have assault squads in razorbacks? I thought that they would be more foot slogging.
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Warhammer 40K Commandments 1. Thou shalt not refer to the Adepta Soritas as "Bolter Bitches." 2. Orks are not "cute." 3. Thou shalt not make jokes about the Imperial Guard's weapons. 4. Thou shalt not replace the Librarian's staff with a magic wand. 5. Thou shalt not tip the Terminators over during battle. 6. Thou shalt not do Spock impersonations around Eldar. 7. C-3P0 is not a Necron ambassador. 8. Thou shalt not pay someone an Imperial to eat that Squig. 9. No, you cannot "Take the Titan for a spin." 10. Thou shalt not use thy multi-meltas to light campfires. (in a similar manner, thou shalt not use the Terminator Captain's chainfist to open tins of baked beans) 11. Thou shalt not bribe the Inquisitor to bring down Exterminatus on your ex-wife. 12. Thou shalt not refer to the Rhino transports as "pimp wagons," nor shalt thou use the phrase, "If the Rhino be rockin, don't come a knockin." 13. The Chapter Master is not a "drag." 14. Thou shall not use Power Swords to cut your food. 15. Thou shall not ask a Sister if you might, "Donate some of your own Gene-Seed." 16. Thou shall not throw soap at nurglings. 17. Thou shalt not put a "kick me" sign on the Golden Throne. 18. Thou shalt not refer to the Machine Spirit as "Cruise Control". 19. Thou shalt not stick a 'Honk if you think I'm sexy' sticker on the Sisters' Rhino. 21. Thou shalt not unplug the Golden Throne just "for laughs". 22. Thou shalt not make the Emperor read your palms, or call upon him as "Miss Cleo". |
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2012/11/03 13:00:18
Subject: New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Stealthy Dark Angels Scout with Shotgun
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PsykerInTheWarp wrote:Thank's for the list! Is it a good idea to have assault squads in razorbacks? I thought that they would be more foot slogging.
My lists are more competitive, and thenoobbomb's list is better for learning how to play the game. I'd suggest taking thenoobbomb's list so that you'd learn the ropes, and then you'll understand why taking jump packs away from assault troops and putting them in transports can be a good thing.
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2012/11/03 13:01:23
Subject: New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Thank's for the list's guys. They have given me some ideas for my own list, which I will post on this thread for you guys' oppinion.
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Warhammer 40K Commandments 1. Thou shalt not refer to the Adepta Soritas as "Bolter Bitches." 2. Orks are not "cute." 3. Thou shalt not make jokes about the Imperial Guard's weapons. 4. Thou shalt not replace the Librarian's staff with a magic wand. 5. Thou shalt not tip the Terminators over during battle. 6. Thou shalt not do Spock impersonations around Eldar. 7. C-3P0 is not a Necron ambassador. 8. Thou shalt not pay someone an Imperial to eat that Squig. 9. No, you cannot "Take the Titan for a spin." 10. Thou shalt not use thy multi-meltas to light campfires. (in a similar manner, thou shalt not use the Terminator Captain's chainfist to open tins of baked beans) 11. Thou shalt not bribe the Inquisitor to bring down Exterminatus on your ex-wife. 12. Thou shalt not refer to the Rhino transports as "pimp wagons," nor shalt thou use the phrase, "If the Rhino be rockin, don't come a knockin." 13. The Chapter Master is not a "drag." 14. Thou shall not use Power Swords to cut your food. 15. Thou shall not ask a Sister if you might, "Donate some of your own Gene-Seed." 16. Thou shall not throw soap at nurglings. 17. Thou shalt not put a "kick me" sign on the Golden Throne. 18. Thou shalt not refer to the Machine Spirit as "Cruise Control". 19. Thou shalt not stick a 'Honk if you think I'm sexy' sticker on the Sisters' Rhino. 21. Thou shalt not unplug the Golden Throne just "for laughs". 22. Thou shalt not make the Emperor read your palms, or call upon him as "Miss Cleo". |
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2012/11/03 13:27:30
Subject: New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings
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Allright, I'm waiting
NEwater's lists are indeed more competetive, and well, I'm used to playing casual games, so that is mainly my focus when creating army lists.
Also, you could swap those DC for a land speeder and do a 10 point upgrade on one of your other units.
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2012/11/03 14:16:11
Subject: New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Blood angels 1000 point list
Libby w/ jump pack, psychic powers, don't know what's good or bad, 125p
Elite
Sanguinary priest w/ jump pack, 80p
Troops
10 man assault squad, w/ 2 meltaguns
5 man assault squad w/ 1 meltagun
10 man Tactical squad w/flamer, heavy bolter, rhino 215
3 death company w/ jet packs, 135
Fast attack
Baal predator, 115p
What do you guys think of my list? Do I maybe need more assault marines e.t.c?
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Warhammer 40K Commandments 1. Thou shalt not refer to the Adepta Soritas as "Bolter Bitches." 2. Orks are not "cute." 3. Thou shalt not make jokes about the Imperial Guard's weapons. 4. Thou shalt not replace the Librarian's staff with a magic wand. 5. Thou shalt not tip the Terminators over during battle. 6. Thou shalt not do Spock impersonations around Eldar. 7. C-3P0 is not a Necron ambassador. 8. Thou shalt not pay someone an Imperial to eat that Squig. 9. No, you cannot "Take the Titan for a spin." 10. Thou shalt not use thy multi-meltas to light campfires. (in a similar manner, thou shalt not use the Terminator Captain's chainfist to open tins of baked beans) 11. Thou shalt not bribe the Inquisitor to bring down Exterminatus on your ex-wife. 12. Thou shalt not refer to the Rhino transports as "pimp wagons," nor shalt thou use the phrase, "If the Rhino be rockin, don't come a knockin." 13. The Chapter Master is not a "drag." 14. Thou shall not use Power Swords to cut your food. 15. Thou shall not ask a Sister if you might, "Donate some of your own Gene-Seed." 16. Thou shall not throw soap at nurglings. 17. Thou shalt not put a "kick me" sign on the Golden Throne. 18. Thou shalt not refer to the Machine Spirit as "Cruise Control". 19. Thou shalt not stick a 'Honk if you think I'm sexy' sticker on the Sisters' Rhino. 21. Thou shalt not unplug the Golden Throne just "for laughs". 22. Thou shalt not make the Emperor read your palms, or call upon him as "Miss Cleo". |
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2012/11/03 14:53:42
Subject: New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Definitely more assault marines. Don't take two HQ at 1,000pts (my general rule is one HQ per 1,500pts or part thereof), drop the Captain and get an extra small Assault squad.
Otherwise it looks like a decent place to start, if a little light on anti-tank; for the 130pts you spent on the Captain you can get an extra five-man assault squad with a meltagun and get two meltaguns for the other assault squad.
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2012/11/03 15:11:50
Subject: New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings
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PsykerInTheWarp wrote:Blood angels 1000 point list
HQ
Captain w/ jump pack, 130p
Libby w/ jump pack, psychic powers, don't know what's good or bad, 125p
Elite
Sanguinary priest w/ jump pack, 80p
Troops
10 man assault squad, 200p
10 man Tactical squad w/flamer, heavy bolter, rhino 215
3 death company w/ jet packs, 135
Fast attack
Baal predator, 115p
What do you guys think of my list? Do I maybe need more assault marines e.t.c?
Decent to get you know the rules.
But I'd still go for my list 
You got the tacticals, assault, sang guard, captain, and anti tank in the form of the dread. Plus you could change the DC for a land speeder.
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2012/11/03 17:39:45
Subject: New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Is there anything I could replace the dread with?
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Thank you everyone! This thread has been informative and interesting, and I will be going for thenoobbomb's list as a starter, because it has a little bit I everything. I will be making other List's to Ethan more info, but for now, thank's, and happy wargaming!
ThePsykerInTheWarp
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Warhammer 40K Commandments 1. Thou shalt not refer to the Adepta Soritas as "Bolter Bitches." 2. Orks are not "cute." 3. Thou shalt not make jokes about the Imperial Guard's weapons. 4. Thou shalt not replace the Librarian's staff with a magic wand. 5. Thou shalt not tip the Terminators over during battle. 6. Thou shalt not do Spock impersonations around Eldar. 7. C-3P0 is not a Necron ambassador. 8. Thou shalt not pay someone an Imperial to eat that Squig. 9. No, you cannot "Take the Titan for a spin." 10. Thou shalt not use thy multi-meltas to light campfires. (in a similar manner, thou shalt not use the Terminator Captain's chainfist to open tins of baked beans) 11. Thou shalt not bribe the Inquisitor to bring down Exterminatus on your ex-wife. 12. Thou shalt not refer to the Rhino transports as "pimp wagons," nor shalt thou use the phrase, "If the Rhino be rockin, don't come a knockin." 13. The Chapter Master is not a "drag." 14. Thou shall not use Power Swords to cut your food. 15. Thou shall not ask a Sister if you might, "Donate some of your own Gene-Seed." 16. Thou shall not throw soap at nurglings. 17. Thou shalt not put a "kick me" sign on the Golden Throne. 18. Thou shalt not refer to the Machine Spirit as "Cruise Control". 19. Thou shalt not stick a 'Honk if you think I'm sexy' sticker on the Sisters' Rhino. 21. Thou shalt not unplug the Golden Throne just "for laughs". 22. Thou shalt not make the Emperor read your palms, or call upon him as "Miss Cleo". |
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2012/11/04 05:38:01
Subject: Re:New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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speed freak ork army sounds up your ally
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Don't tell people how to do things, tell them what to do and let them surprise you with their results.
George S. Patton :  The wode  capn deaf klawz Freebooters   Shas'O Storm knifes Shan'al  |
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2012/11/04 09:40:44
Subject: New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings
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PsykerInTheWarp wrote:Is there anything I could replace the dread with?
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Thank you everyone! This thread has been informative and interesting, and I will be going for thenoobbomb's list as a starter, because it has a little bit I everything. I will be making other List's to Ethan more info, but for now, thank's, and happy wargaming!
ThePsykerInTheWarp
Replacement for the dread? Maybe a predator, but IIRC that is a tad more expensive, both points wise and money.
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2012/11/05 15:30:44
Subject: New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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As much as I love playing sisters they are the most expensive army. Running 130$ minimum. ( 18 sisters, 5.50 per sister plus 2 superior, $9 per leader. and cannoness $14 per 1 to give you 2 troop choice and 1 HQ) that's without the white dwarf codex which is only available thru eBay or swap shop when someone has a spare set to sell. Best bet for money is the dark vengeance set and modify the dark angel half for chaos. Gives you a rulebook. A few troop choices and an HQ or 2 to use. For 160 (codex added)
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2012/11/05 15:31:45
Subject: New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings
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Well, he is buying blood angels/space marines
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2012/11/05 15:50:59
Subject: New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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Black Templars 4000 Deathwatch 6000
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2012/11/05 15:51:58
Subject: Re:New to war gaming. What army should I get?
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Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings
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 thenoobbomb wrote:HQ:
Captain
---Power Weapon
---Jump pack
140 pts
Elite:
Sanguinary Guard
200 pts
Sanguinary priest
---Jump pack
75 pts
Troops
10 Tactical Marines
---Missile Launcher
---Flamer
---Rhino
220 pts
Assault Squad (10 man)
---Plasma pistol
---Melta bombs
200 pts
3 Death company
60 pts
Heavy Support
Dreadnought
105 pts
Is a fun 1000 point list IMHO.
Not the most competetive, but a great start. Both army wise and bits wise
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