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 Testify wrote:

 warpcrafter wrote:
Also it's the soda, which is full of high fructose corn syrup, which screws up the metabolism. I am trying to rid it from my diet, but it's hard. I've switched to one of those "Throwback" sodas, which are made with regular sugar. It seems to be working, since it's not as good as the high-fructose corn syrup variety and so I drink less. If it weren't for my back problems I could work out and lose more weight, but that's the way it goes.

Working out doesn't make you drop the weight, cardio does. Working out burns naff all calories.

It also doesn't matter if you literally just lie in bed all day. If you burn more calories than you consume, you'll lose weight. You shouldn't really be having sugary drinks *at all*. If you're eating calories make sure it at least fills you up.

Building muscle is the most efficient way to burn calories as muscle eats up a lot of your daily caloric intake. I know a lot of people in great shape that don't touch traditional "cardio", and have lost plenty of fat in the process. Proper weight training can be one hell of a cardio workout in itself. Stress, genes, hormones, sleep, leptin and other things also play roles, but let's not get too far out of hand here.

But what will I deep fry......I guess there are still Oreos

I actually hate Twinkies, could never understand the fascination, Zingers on the other hand, those were good.

So their making all of their cake products into a liquid? I'm okay with this.

DRINKaTWINKIE

Someone should hold a Twinkie farewell party. Sugar induced comas for all..

Mattman154 wrote:
So their making all of their cake products into a liquid? I'm okay with this.

DRINKaTWINKIE

DRINKaVELVET!

 Lt. Coldfire wrote:

 Testify wrote:

 warpcrafter wrote:
Also it's the soda, which is full of high fructose corn syrup, which screws up the metabolism. I am trying to rid it from my diet, but it's hard. I've switched to one of those "Throwback" sodas, which are made with regular sugar. It seems to be working, since it's not as good as the high-fructose corn syrup variety and so I drink less. If it weren't for my back problems I could work out and lose more weight, but that's the way it goes.

Working out doesn't make you drop the weight, cardio does. Working out burns naff all calories.

It also doesn't matter if you literally just lie in bed all day. If you burn more calories than you consume, you'll lose weight. You shouldn't really be having sugary drinks *at all*. If you're eating calories make sure it at least fills you up.

Building muscle is the most efficient way to burn calories as muscle eats up a lot of your daily caloric intake.

Over time, yes. If you want to lose weight (or specifically, fat), you still need to do excersise though.

As a general rule anyone who mentions "metabolism" when they're talking about losing weight isn't doing enough exercise. Here's a tip - eat 2,000 calories a day and walk for an hour. You *will* lose weight, healthily and fast.

 Testify wrote:

 Lt. Coldfire wrote:

 Testify wrote:

 warpcrafter wrote:
Also it's the soda, which is full of high fructose corn syrup, which screws up the metabolism. I am trying to rid it from my diet, but it's hard. I've switched to one of those "Throwback" sodas, which are made with regular sugar. It seems to be working, since it's not as good as the high-fructose corn syrup variety and so I drink less. If it weren't for my back problems I could work out and lose more weight, but that's the way it goes.

Working out doesn't make you drop the weight, cardio does. Working out burns naff all calories.

It also doesn't matter if you literally just lie in bed all day. If you burn more calories than you consume, you'll lose weight. You shouldn't really be having sugary drinks *at all*. If you're eating calories make sure it at least fills you up.

Building muscle is the most efficient way to burn calories as muscle eats up a lot of your daily caloric intake.

Over time, yes. If you want to lose weight (or specifically, fat), you still need to do excersise though.

Weight training is exercise.

I was about to add that Zingers are better than Twinkies, but they're made by the same people and now I'm lying on the floor, crying like a baby.

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Couldn't someone just buy up the rights to the Twinkies brand & recipe? It's iconic enough it probably still has some value and it's not like manufacturing them requires any special equipment other folks in the snack-cake business don't already have. At worst they reformulate some if their almost identical products, and cash in on the Twinkies brand.

 Chongara wrote:
Couldn't someone just buy up the rights to the Twinkies brand & recipe? It's iconic enough it probably still has some value and it's not like manufacturing them requires any special equipment other folks in the snack-cake business don't already have. At worst they reformulate some if their almost identical products, and cash in on the Twinkies brand.

I'd say possible to the point of probable. Someone posted a link to another article that someone may be in the process of purchasing these rights, but I am too overcome with grief to click on the link...

 kronk wrote:

 Chongara wrote:
Couldn't someone just buy up the rights to the Twinkies brand & recipe? It's iconic enough it probably still has some value and it's not like manufacturing them requires any special equipment other folks in the snack-cake business don't already have. At worst they reformulate some if their almost identical products, and cash in on the Twinkies brand.

I'd say possible to the point of probable. Someone posted a link to another article that someone may be in the process of purchasing these rights, but I am too overcome with grief to click on the link...

Well you could always bake your own. I mean they're just little filled cakes after all, not really complicated stuff.

There is certainly value in some of the Hostess brands and some of them and their operations will be bought by investors or competitors and there is a chance that some of the affected workers will be hired by the new owners, though I am guessing at inferior compensation than what they had with Hostess.

That said, this is a failure of both Management and the Union leadership. Management has failed to lead and develop the innovation required to compete in in a increasingly competitive marketplace and also failed to communicate effectively with the Union that would have encouraged the Union to respond positively. At the same time the Union leadership failed miserably to lookout for the interests of it's members in making a disastrous miscalculation regarding management's resolve and the company's short term prospects, much less the long term prospects, given that the general consensus of anyone outside of this dispute was that Hostess was in a chronic situation where any chances for short term and long term viability rested in part on a rationalization of it's cost structure that would bring it in line with the current market condition.

Oh and for the record I hated Twinkies, would gag trying to eat one, but loved their cupcakes, ding dongs, and zingers (all of which are also made by other companies under different names).

Mission accomplished Union! Think the workers will get their wasted dues back?

Best part is the guy with the "Corporate Greed" sign, it's deliciously ironic.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
Here's the story from CNN. I don;t recall reading the part about the Bankrutpcy court, but I may have missed it.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/16/news/companies/hostess-closing/index.html?iid=Lead

However, this was the best line of the story....

Bimbo Bakeries, maker of the Arnold and Stroehmann brands, is the No. 1 bread baker.

Whats the problem? Bimbo is a big bakery with roots in Latin America (its owner is a Mexican company), hence the name. Good bread and some nice snacks too!

Dakka has failed me. I thought the jokes would write themselves.

Let me try:
Hostess falls to knees before Bimbo
Bimbo outsells the Ho-Ho's
Bimbo beats Ding-Dongs.

Really people, do I have to do everythign myself?

KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Weight training is exercise.

Thanks for that clarification.


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 KalashnikovMarine wrote:


Mission accomplished Union! Think the workers will get their wasted dues back?

Best part is the guy with the "Corporate Greed" sign, it's deliciously ironic.

So if you were in a position where you were helpless against your fate, you'd lay down and take it? You'd not struggle?

Sounds pretty weak to me. You should always try to fight for what you want in life, even if it's pointless.

 Testify wrote:

KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Weight training is exercise.

Thanks for that clarification.


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 KalashnikovMarine wrote:


Mission accomplished Union! Think the workers will get their wasted dues back?

Best part is the guy with the "Corporate Greed" sign, it's deliciously ironic.

So if you were in a position where you were helpless against your fate, you'd lay down and take it? You'd not struggle?

Sounds pretty weak to me. You should always try to fight for what you want in life, even if it's pointless.

I didn't say anything about weight training, where the feth did that come from eh?

So you should struggle against reality in such a manner THAT IT DESTROYS THE VERY THING YOU ARE TRYING TO PRESERVE. That is what happened here. Hostess did everything it could to keep it's doors open and was obeying A COURT ORDER, these fethheads to their OWN DETRIMENT protested a court order and drove their employer out of business. This wasn't inevitable, this could have been prevented, by those very people with picket signs outside their former place of employment. All they had to do was go to work and save the company and their jobs.

I'm all for fighting the good fight and standing up to the man (I'm anti-union because unions haven't been anything but another boss to pay for a couple decades now) but this is pure stupidity on the part of the workers themselves losing them their jobs.


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On the plus side none of this matters because Swiss Cake rolls are still in production.

Common sense went right out the window when the word "Strike" got fired up. I can't help but chuckle and wondering what the union is telling themselves now

well

this gak isn't even food, the fact they sell it as such should be a crime


wonderbread is as far away from actual bread as it gets, it's all chemicals and air

In a statement released this morning, the company explained:

Hostess Brands is unprofitable under its current cost structure, much of which is determined by union wages and pension costs. The offer to the BCTGM included wage, benefit and work rule concessions but also gave Hostess Brands’ 12 unions a 25 percent ownership stake in the company, representation on its Board of Directors and $100 million in reorganized Hostess Brands’ debt.

Not sure what the Unions were holding out for there.

http://laborpains.org/2012/11/16/hostess-to-liquidate-due-to-bakers-union-strike/

Testify wrote:
So if you were in a position where you were helpless against your fate, you'd lay down and take it? You'd not struggle?

Sounds pretty weak to me. You should always try to fight for what you want in life, even if it's pointless.

What the feth are you smoking?

This may be a cross thread post or else Testify is really really into tweenkies.

 Easy E wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
Here's the story from CNN. I don;t recall reading the part about the Bankrutpcy court, but I may have missed it.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/16/news/companies/hostess-closing/index.html?iid=Lead

However, this was the best line of the story....

Bimbo Bakeries, maker of the Arnold and Stroehmann brands, is the No. 1 bread baker.

Whats the problem? Bimbo is a big bakery with roots in Latin America (its owner is a Mexican company), hence the name. Good bread and some nice snacks too!

Dakka has failed me. I thought the jokes would write themselves.

Let me try:
Hostess falls to knees before Bimbo
Bimbo outsells the Ho-Ho's
Bimbo beats Ding-Dongs.

Really people, do I have to do everythign myself?

It's pronounced "Beam-Bo" and it means Baby you sick feth.

Cute, it's the usual group of know-nothings waging class war on the working class.

Enjoy your union won weekend, guys!

Nationalize the twinkies industry!
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/nationalize-twinkie-industry/cJz0ngJR

Sweet creamy center??? O.o

 Alfndrate wrote:
Sweet creamy center??? O.o

saw that too!

 AustonT wrote:

 Easy E wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
Here's the story from CNN. I don;t recall reading the part about the Bankrutpcy court, but I may have missed it.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/16/news/companies/hostess-closing/index.html?iid=Lead

However, this was the best line of the story....

Bimbo Bakeries, maker of the Arnold and Stroehmann brands, is the No. 1 bread baker.

Whats the problem? Bimbo is a big bakery with roots in Latin America (its owner is a Mexican company), hence the name. Good bread and some nice snacks too!

Dakka has failed me. I thought the jokes would write themselves.

Let me try:
Hostess falls to knees before Bimbo
Bimbo outsells the Ho-Ho's
Bimbo beats Ding-Dongs.

Really people, do I have to do everythign myself?

It's pronounced "Beam-Bo" and it means Baby you sick feth.

Bah, you are just being a wet blanket now.

Was never a huge fan of hostess, since nobody bakes a cake as tasty as a Tastykake.

still sucks though, I guess now's a good time to buy up all the twinkies you can, and sell em on ebay in 10 years.

Wow, They are destroying the compony because the wworkers refused to work?
WWhy not hire new workers? Or give in to the demands. Surely Less(but still significant) money is better then none at all??

The company had already filed for bankruptcy. One of several reasons why is because they had to pay the union wages and benefits, which can always get bigger and better because the union has a collective bargaining, and if you piss off the union, you lose chunk of your workers due to strikes, and then you get bad press when you hire scabs to fill the empty positions.

So the union workers go on strike because the bankruptcy court says the union must lose 8% of their pay as well as some benefits... So they went on strike to solve this issue... It failed...