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Dark Eldar. We're cool here in the webway, we'll make sure you keep fighting so that anyone strong is quickly destroyed, and all forces will grind themselves down to nothing. By the end there'll be the equivalent of 10 imperial guardsmen for us to defeat.

In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war. Orks love war. Even getting wiped out in battle means they die happy. Ergo, Orks already won. They're pretty much living the dream.

No matter who wins:

Necrons cannot win : no more are created now, and their number can only decrease through the wars.

Tyranids rules

 meecham63 wrote:
Necrons cannot win : no more are created now, and their number can only decrease through the wars.

Tyranids rules

When necrons die they are teleported to a tomb world and are repaired. For all intensive purposes they are indeed endless.

Ork win. If nids fight orks it will be a huge war that would take millions of years to decide who is victorious. Even if the nids win there is all the orks on roks all around the galaxy and all the orks still in the warp. Nids will be gone and orks will replenish the galaxy.

If necrons win then same thing. Just give it some time. If chaos enters the materium then the orks have leadership that cant be defeated. Gork and Mork shall lead the orks on the ultimate conquest of the galaxy. Game over man just... Game over

It's Orks.

Every one of the species is a warrior, they grow larger and more powerful during wars and protracted conflicts, they can live off sunlight alone, kill one and it spores thousands, they thrive in situations that would send most sentient species insane, they are highly resistant to chaos and they have a gestalt psychic power greater than any other species... and they are everywhere. As the conflicts increase more are attracted to them, they are the perfect organism.


Tyranids have suffered a great deal in their background and now weaken rapidly if not victorious in their battles, burning up massive amounts of energy to produce warforms and warrior creatures. If the Orks get into it with them and it becomes protracted, the Orks win. Humanity is doomed, the Eldar are doomed and the Necrons are slowly rusting away.


When the universe ends, there will be only two living beings left in it, two orks, choking the life out of each other, grinning as they do...

Opps, I voted wrong. I thought the poll was Who would defeat the Imperium (I voted Tyranids, Chaos second) I just missread it



I would have voted Imperium would win in the end

Tau will be the first to go by the Tyranids, Orks or Necrons. Eldar will be next along with their dark brethren and their prophecy will turn out to be a hoax. The Imperium will fall next, collapsing on itself as it is besieged on all sides. Also the Emperor will also turn out to be a hoax and just cease to exist. Chaos will vanish with no one to worship them. Then Tyranids will pour in from all sides utterly drowning the Necrons and Orks with numbers until Gork or mabye Mork put an end to the madness and reverse time back to the 41st millennium and make it stay that way forever.

How exactly do the Tyranids enter the webway?

 Zande4 wrote:
Tau will be the first to go by the Tyranids, Orks or Necrons. Eldar will be next along with their dark brethren and their prophecy will turn out to be a hoax. The Imperium will fall next, collapsing on itself as it is besieged on all sides. Also the Emperor will also turn out to be a hoax and just cease to exist. Chaos will vanish with no one to worship them. Then Tyranids will pour in from all sides utterly drowning the Necrons and Orks with numbers until Gork or mabye Mork put an end to the madness and reverse time back to the 41st millennium and make it stay that way forever.

The Tyranids have never, ever been anything more than fodder to be slaughtered while fighting Necrons. The closest they got to victory against the Necrons was necessitating a Blood Angel/Necron alliance briefly.

The Orks have numbers rivaling the Tyranids.

 Void__Dragon wrote:

The Orks have numbers rivaling the Tyranids.

That is impossible for you to know.


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 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
It's Orks.

Every one of the species is a warrior

If Gretchins and Snotlings are warriors, then human children are elite forces.

 Void__Dragon wrote:

The Tyranids have never, ever been anything more than fodder to be slaughtered while fighting Necrons. The closest they got to victory against the Necrons was necessitating a Blood Angel/Necron alliance briefly.

One Necron dynasty has been crippled by Tyranids, although they might not have been prepared. However, fleetwise especially the Necrons seem to hold a massive advantage over the Tyranids, although on the ground it may be different.

 Kovnik Obama wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
It's Orks.

Every one of the species is a warrior

If Gretchins and Snotlings are warriors, then human children are elite forces.

Gretchin are warriors they are in mobs in the ork codex... As for snotlings they are cannon fodder\ammunition... Big Meks with SAG need ammo you know

willhman wrote:

Gretchin are warriors they are in mobs in the ork codex... As for snotlings they are cannon fodder\ammunition... Big Meks with SAG need ammo you know

Meh, still think you could "muster' a classroom of 9 years old, give them autoguns, and you'd have a match for your mob

Im not saying there good warriors but they are warriors. Plus Gretchin can see 4 of their guys die before retreating unlike 9 year olds who USUALLY see a friend of theirs die and go into shock\drop to their knees and cry. Gretchin see other gretchin die all the time so they do have a fear factor to boot over the 9 year olds.

Gretchin would beat that class hahahah

 Kovnik Obama wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
It's Orks.

Every one of the species is a warrior

If Gretchins and Snotlings are warriors, then human children are elite forces.

And they aren't the same species, they are in the same family but are different. And they are slave races, not necessary to the propagation of the ork race like children or women spending 9 months in a progressively handicapped state to produce a single offspring, just providing utility and an occasional food source...

willhman wrote:
Im not saying there good warriors but they are warriors. Plus Gretchin can see 4 of their guys die before retreating unlike 9 year olds who USUALLY see a friend of theirs die and go into shock\drop to their knees and cry. Gretchin see other gretchin die all the time so they do have a fear factor to boot over the 9 year olds.

Gretchin would beat that class hahahah

Pfff give that class a bit of chems stimulants and they'll play soccer with Gretchin bones later that night.

Okay now I've depressed myself because horrible horrible things like this actually happens...


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 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

And they aren't the same species, they are in the same family but are different.

HA! You're right! I didn't know that, I thought they were just a possible endings of the same 'gestation' process, like twins or triplets, but smaller...

Thanks for pointing that out!

... Im pretty sure gretchin are stronger then human children... They are the ones that carry everything around for the orks...

Not to mention that they are actually pretty good at operating firearms, on par with trained soldiers.

willhman wrote:
... Im pretty sure gretchin are stronger then human children... They are the ones that carry everything around for the orks...

You mean to say that your parents didn't make you carry everything when you were a kid?


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 Void__Dragon wrote:
Not to mention that they are actually pretty good at operating firearms, on par with trained soldiers.

We'll, the system is working in increments of 16.66% as far as shooting goes... And while I don't know what's the hit/shot ratio for modern forces, I'd venture that even BS 1 troops have a much higher accuracy rating than most modern troops...

So I don't think that rules are representative of anything, really, just internally valid.

Gretchin carry everything. I couldnt care a full fledge axe when I was a kid unlike gretchin. Also some of the guns they carry are almost half the size of them. At least some of the pics that Ive seen of them show that they are about half the size of them.

Also Gretcin rely on their accuracy cause that is really all they have. Once in cc they usually crack agaisnt most foes. accuracy and killing the enemy from a distants is the only way to really keep their nerve.

"The Beast was one of the most powerful Ork Warbosses to have ever lived. In 544.M32 he united much of the Ork race and nearly succeeded in conquering the Galaxy.[1b] His Waaagh! was the largest the Galaxy has ever seen and rampaged across the Imperium, eclipsing even the one Horus defeated during the Ullanor Crusade which earned him the title of Warmaster. The Imperium only halted his advance at great cost and desperate measure, devastating the Adeptus Astartes." - Lexicanum

Orks are the most widespread and populous of the sentient species. If one warboss can nearly destroy the Imperium then I see no reason why they couldn't do it again some day. If they can destroy the Imperium then the other races do not stand a chance.

They are also Brutally Cunning....or is it Cunningly Brutal.

 Greenizbest wrote:
"The Beast was one of the most powerful Ork Warbosses to have ever lived. In 544.M32 he united much of the Ork race and nearly succeeded in conquering the Galaxy.[1b] His Waaagh! was the largest the Galaxy has ever seen and rampaged across the Imperium, eclipsing even the one Horus defeated during the Ullanor Crusade which earned him the title of Warmaster. The Imperium only halted his advance at great cost and desperate measure, devastating the Adeptus Astartes." - Lexicanum

Orks are the most widespread and populous of the sentient species. If one warboss can nearly destroy the Imperium then I see no reason why they couldn't do it again some day. If they can destroy the Imperium then the other races do not stand a chance.

They are also Brutally Cunning....or is it Cunningly Brutal.

Every race except the Tau (and maybe the Eldars?)could destroy the Imperium given particular conditions. By that standard, all races do not stand a chances against all races (except for Tau, and possibly Eldars).