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 Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:

You missed the point entirely. Please look up what drinking the Kool Aid is.

This is a common error. The people of Jonestown drank poisoned Flavorade, not Kool Aid.

If disagreeing with Israel means that I am drinking antisemitic kool-aid, does that also mean that everybody opposing Obama is drinking racist kool-aid?

You can disagree with any number of Israel's actions and not be antisemitic.

Oh how I loathe the ludicrous amount of political protection Israel gets. Say anything bad about Israel (or indeed any Jewish organization, state or person) and it's automatically "OMG U SO RASSIST U NAZI!!!!11!1!!!111ONE!!1".

Quite frankly given the atrocious treatment of the Palestinians the Israelis deserve every bit of criticism they get.

Oddly enough the Jewish State is probably the best example of a fascist state that exists in the modern world.

And by best I mean the best working, although I think there could be a pretty strong argument made for Israel being a state heavily influenced by/running on fascist ideology.

And no I'm not meaning this in a trolling manner.

(Well okay a litte. )

Cheesecat wrote:I can't help but feel that Israel is being somewhat of an aggressor though.

Oooh this is fun now do Germany and Poland in 1914, 1935, and 1945
Those goddamned aggresive polacks!

Ma55ter_fett wrote:So disagreeing with the policies of a foreign government means I'm racist against the people of said country?

I've never been particularly fond of the argument that disagreeing with Israel equals antisemitism.

 d-usa wrote:
If disagreeing with Israel means that I am drinking antisemitic kool-aid, does that also mean that everybody opposing Obama is drinking racist kool-aid?

It did two weeks ago.

Drinking the Kool-Aid only results in victim blaming. A common side effect of this beverage.

Though who the victim is cannot be properly determined without drinking deeply.

All of the sudden, I can understand a little of Israel controlling certain construction materials:

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/26/15454998-gazans-move-quickly-to-rebuild-bombed-tunnels-to-bring-in-food-weapons?lite

If these materials are being used to build smuggling tunnels for rockets, then hell yeah, control them.

So why hasn't OP come back in here? He has stated and clarified his stance on drinking of kool-aid. Is he simply trying to flame bait? Not to discredit your position OP, but you come in, post something slightly controversial, and then leave in a wisp of smoke.

OP come back, we miss you!

I agree. Start a flame war, you'd better be in the thread with your bucket of Koolnade Gasoline. Can we talk about corporations as people too? I'd vote for genocide then.

 Alfndrate wrote:
So why hasn't OP come back in here? He has stated and clarified his stance on drinking of kool-aid. Is he simply trying to flame bait? Not to discredit your position OP, but you come in, post something slightly controversial, and then leave in a wisp of smoke.

OP come back, we miss you!

Flame bait, wisp of smoke?

Goodun'

How exactly does criticising a country = hating a religion?

Because the Holocaust!

 Alfndrate wrote:
So why hasn't OP come back in here? He has stated and clarified his stance on drinking of kool-aid. Is he simply trying to flame bait? Not to discredit your position OP, but you come in, post something slightly controversial, and then leave in a wisp of smoke.

OP come back, we miss you!

This is what Easy Inquisition E does in OT. Comes in, usually wondering about a meme, relates it to Slurm krieg then vanishes. I am concerned about the lack of OTT fan fic in this thread.

The lack of drinks is a downer as well. We should have had multicultural 5 Alive and racist Mountain Dew by now.

Gatorade must surely be anti something? Freeze maybe?

 kamakazepanda wrote:
How exactly does criticising a country = hating a religion?

1. It depends how you criticize though.
2. Lets get real. There is an aspect of hypocrisy here in how Israel is called out by the UN, vs. other states with ongoing conflicts.

 Frazzled wrote:

 kamakazepanda wrote:
How exactly does criticising a country = hating a religion?

1. It depends how you criticize though.
2. Lets get real. There is an aspect of hypocrisy here in how Israel is called out by the UN, vs. other states with ongoing conflicts.

Kind of like this:

"Hey bro, we gave you those primo digs all those years ago, and you can't even be bothered to treat it nicely? Wtf brah?"

More like "hey bor, we're going to single you out for human rights abuses, because we're on the human rights committee."

-signed Sudan, Libya, and Syria.

 Alfndrate wrote:
So why hasn't OP come back in here? He has stated and clarified his stance on drinking of kool-aid. Is he simply trying to flame bait? Not to discredit your position OP, but you come in, post something slightly controversial, and then leave in a wisp of smoke.

OP come back, we miss you!

It's because it went to Hell in a handbasket and no one took it seriously.

How could anyone take the original post seriously?

Actually, most of the replies were quite serious, oddly on-topic for the OT forum, and noticeably flame-bait free considering the topic.

It's just that no one agreed with you...

if it helps, we discovered TBone the Magnificent, greatest of all wiener dogs, has no problem being carried around the park when he's not feeling good instead of walking. He enjoys looking around and surveying his domain from his perch in the arms of his Human whilst the other canine peons are forced to walk. TBone needs no KoolAid!

I find it ironic that the picture in OPs signature contains a WW2 Russian Star and an Iron Cross, two symbols used by nations that were very antisemitic.

The text below those antisemitic symbols is also purple, and he is talking about kool-aid, so I assume he is talking about grape kool-aid, which is extremely racist.

I am dissapoint...

 Frazzled wrote:
More like "hey bor, we're going to single you out for human rights abuses, because we're on the human rights committee."

-signed Sudan, Libya, and Syria.

It's fair to single out Israel because Israel claims to be a modern, civilized nation and should therefore be held to higher standards. Everyone knows those other countries are a mess, so it's not really as newsworthy when bad things happen.

 kronk wrote:
Actually, most of the replies were quite serious, oddly on-topic for the OT forum, and noticeably flame-bait free considering the topic.

It's just that no one agreed with you...

Well, there were several that were crap. I appreciated several of the ones that I disagreed with, but they just showed that trying to reinform people is a useless battle. Maybe I can find the documentary on Antisemitism and link it here. Also, several of the posts were deleted.

NVM. Read reinform as reform. Carry on...

 Peregrine wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
More like "hey bor, we're going to single you out for human rights abuses, because we're on the human rights committee."

-signed Sudan, Libya, and Syria.

It's fair to single out Israel because Israel claims to be a modern, civilized nation and should therefore be held to higher standards. Everyone knows those other countries are a mess, so it's not really as newsworthy when bad things happen.

Except it is newsworthy when those countries are the ones calling Israel out.

And also quite amusing.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
More like "hey bor, we're going to single you out for human rights abuses, because we're on the human rights committee."

-signed Sudan, Libya, and Syria.

It's fair to single out Israel because Israel claims to be a modern, civilized nation and should therefore be held to higher standards. Everyone knows those other countries are a mess, so it's not really as newsworthy when bad things happen.

Er....hats not really logical when the countries I mentioned are or have been on the UN Human Rights Council. if you're on the actual Council aren't you doing the same thing?

So ...er by that logic its ok for North Korea to be the Tenth Circle of Hell, but because Israel has a first world telephone system, they're bad guys? WTF?

OT but I like the vignette on North Korea in WWZ. Its very GW mystery.


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 Kanluwen wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
More like "hey bor, we're going to single you out for human rights abuses, because we're on the human rights committee."

-signed Sudan, Libya, and Syria.

It's fair to single out Israel because Israel claims to be a modern, civilized nation and should therefore be held to higher standards. Everyone knows those other countries are a mess, so it's not really as newsworthy when bad things happen.

Except it is newsworthy when those countries are the ones calling Israel out.

Kanluwen and I are in agreement. Nope, no pigs flying by outside. I'm suddenly very very scared.