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yeah, That isnt too bad as far as optimization goes though, look up locate city bomb, you can do like 6000 sumthingd6 in a couple mile radius.

@ OP. the only problem I would have as a gm is that BoVD is 3.0. Other than that, I would be more interested in why your character would want to sell his/her soul for such a paltry low price.

Someone already mentioned it , that the DM can optimize as well, but I had a couple of players that thought they were cute with their optimization. Oh, they got me the first time.

Then they met a certain Hobgoblin fighter that got rather midieval on their collective asses. We then had a conversation about the roles we were playing. Are we, the DM and players, in an advesarial relationship? I mean I wouldn't go "Lightning strikes you every 15 seconds because you angered Vecna" or anything, but NPCs have the same options as you do, and no one says they have to have bad stats. It was actually kind of fun.

I don't think it should ever be "me against them." If it comes down to that the DM is going to get kinda bored when their players aren't exploding. Then again, if the players turn it into that then the game turns into a street fight and as the DM we can bring guns and chains while all they are left with is a paper clip and a tooth pick. I've always felt D&D works best as a collaborative game rather than competitive.

It was designed as a collaborative game. The DM is supposed to tell a story and the players are the characters in that story. The challenges are supposed to further that story, not be the punctuation to that story...

The debate over optimisation isn't what this thread is about. I'm usually a story orientated GM but I think it is perfectly fine to have a game where everyone games it to the nines if that's what you set out to do. These games generally have to be shorter lived and often require a bit more prep from me, but they can be a fun change of pace after story driven games.

As to the build, could you break down how you're getting a x16 crit? I was under the impression crits never doubled directly, only ever increased by 1.

ok its not technically a 16x crit its actually a 4x crit from a scythe, and then a 4x from charge shenanigans, which make a 16x on a crit, but does 4x if you do not roll a 14-20. also to get a 20x crit you can use that resin from the extraplanar thing to give a 5x crit and a 4x charge shenanigan

In our games, regardless of source, damage multipliers are always added together. In your case, a 4x crit weapon and another source giving you 4x would be 8x, not 16x.

if you smear that extraplanar resin you can get it up to 20x