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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/09 14:14:32
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
Buffalo, NY
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Is anyone else laughing that Relapse said "doing weed?"
Seriously what are you 70? lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/09 14:47:59
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Fixture of Dakka
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Just the way people talk around here, but if that's the best you can come up with, go for it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/09 14:54:32
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
Buffalo, NY
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Where are you from that people still talk like the 1940's?
I was just trying to poke a little fun. Lighten up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/09 15:22:28
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Fixture of Dakka
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DutchKillsRambo wrote:Where are you from that people still talk like the 1940's?
I was just trying to poke a little fun. Lighten up.
No problem, just waking up and stumbling about my day.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/09 16:35:24
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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Oh my god, let them die already. They have been putting out crap product since......well forever.
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BLACK TEMPLARS - 2000 0RkZ - 2000 NIDZ - WIP STEEL LEGION - WIP
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/09 17:09:40
Subject: Re:Way to go, Chrysler
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Fixture of Dakka
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I'm with Lone Cat...
...how do we know that the Judean's People's Front wasn't involved? Or how about the People's Front of Judea?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/09 17:14:14
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Everyone knows it was Saddam Hussein and Satan who are responsible.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/09 17:26:13
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Kanluwen wrote:Everyone knows it was Saddam Hussein and Satan who are responsible.
C'mon guy.
It's ragaenomics.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 03:12:31
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Building a blood in water scent
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As a non-union worker, I am firmly in favour of scabs getting beaten. If a union shop strikes, and the owners want to continue running, then non-union staff (ie management) can pick up the slack.
Scabs deserve whatever violence is visited upon them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 03:26:51
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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feeder wrote:As a non-union worker, I am firmly in favour of scabs getting beaten. If a union shop strikes, and the owners want to continue running, then non-union staff (ie management) can pick up the slack.
Scabs deserve whatever violence is visited upon them.
A scab can ben non union.
They may just be someone hired by the company to make sure the product continues to be made during a strike, it isn't a union member who doesn't do what the union tells them.
Even if it were a union member, saying that them being beaten up is entirely justified is a horrible viewpoint to take.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 03:30:06
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I almost scabed once, would have cost the hospital quite a premium to pay me and be able to stay open. Decided the trip was not worth it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 03:34:34
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Building a blood in water scent
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Goliath wrote:feeder wrote:As a non-union worker, I am firmly in favour of scabs getting beaten. If a union shop strikes, and the owners want to continue running, then non-union staff (ie management) can pick up the slack.
Scabs deserve whatever violence is visited upon them.
A scab can ben non union.
They may just be someone hired by the company to make sure the product continues to be made during a strike, it isn't a union member who doesn't do what the union tells them.
Even if it were a union member, saying that them being beaten up is entirely justified is a horrible viewpoint to take.
I know what a scab is, and I think they are desperate losers at best and worthless scum at worst (depending on their motivation). I know that violence is a horrible thing, but in the end I feel it is a lesser of two evils.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 03:37:03
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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feeder wrote: Goliath wrote:feeder wrote:As a non-union worker, I am firmly in favour of scabs getting beaten. If a union shop strikes, and the owners want to continue running, then non-union staff (ie management) can pick up the slack.
Scabs deserve whatever violence is visited upon them.
A scab can ben non union.
They may just be someone hired by the company to make sure the product continues to be made during a strike, it isn't a union member who doesn't do what the union tells them.
Even if it were a union member, saying that them being beaten up is entirely justified is a horrible viewpoint to take.
I know what a scab is, and I think they are desperate losers at best and worthless scum at worst (depending on their motivation). I know that violence is a horrible thing, but in the end I feel it is a lesser of two evils.
I'm unemployed and trying to get a job, and have offered to be payed to make up for the drop in production due to a strike.
I deserve to be beaten up because I'm obviously a horrible human being and deserve it.
(To be clear, I'm not actually talking about myself, I'm talking from th perspective of a hypothetical person)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 03:38:37
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
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feeder wrote: Goliath wrote:feeder wrote:As a non-union worker, I am firmly in favour of scabs getting beaten. If a union shop strikes, and the owners want to continue running, then non-union staff (ie management) can pick up the slack.
Scabs deserve whatever violence is visited upon them.
A scab can ben non union.
They may just be someone hired by the company to make sure the product continues to be made during a strike, it isn't a union member who doesn't do what the union tells them.
Even if it were a union member, saying that them being beaten up is entirely justified is a horrible viewpoint to take.
I know what a scab is, and I think they are desperate losers at best and worthless scum at worst (depending on their motivation). I know that violence is a horrible thing, but in the end I feel it is a lesser of two evils.
See... this sort of attitudes is what gives unions a bad name... just saying.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 03:42:43
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Building a blood in water scent
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Goliath wrote:feeder wrote: Goliath wrote:feeder wrote:As a non-union worker, I am firmly in favour of scabs getting beaten. If a union shop strikes, and the owners want to continue running, then non-union staff (ie management) can pick up the slack.
Scabs deserve whatever violence is visited upon them.
A scab can ben non union.
They may just be someone hired by the company to make sure the product continues to be made during a strike, it isn't a union member who doesn't do what the union tells them.
Even if it were a union member, saying that them being beaten up is entirely justified is a horrible viewpoint to take.
I know what a scab is, and I think they are desperate losers at best and worthless scum at worst (depending on their motivation). I know that violence is a horrible thing, but in the end I feel it is a lesser of two evils.
I'm unemployed and trying to get a job, and have offered to be payed to make up for the drop in production due to a strike.
I deserve to be beaten up because I'm obviously a horrible human being and deserve it.
(To be clear, I'm not actually talking about myself, I'm talking from th perspective of a hypothetical person)
The hypothetical you is the desperate loser in that case. The violence is deserved upon the hypothetical you for failing your fellow man. Not richly deserved, mind you. Scabbing is equivalent to stealing, in my mind.
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We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 03:44:06
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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feeder wrote: Goliath wrote:feeder wrote: Goliath wrote:feeder wrote:As a non-union worker, I am firmly in favour of scabs getting beaten. If a union shop strikes, and the owners want to continue running, then non-union staff (ie management) can pick up the slack.
Scabs deserve whatever violence is visited upon them.
A scab can ben non union.
They may just be someone hired by the company to make sure the product continues to be made during a strike, it isn't a union member who doesn't do what the union tells them.
Even if it were a union member, saying that them being beaten up is entirely justified is a horrible viewpoint to take.
I know what a scab is, and I think they are desperate losers at best and worthless scum at worst (depending on their motivation). I know that violence is a horrible thing, but in the end I feel it is a lesser of two evils.
I'm unemployed and trying to get a job, and have offered to be payed to make up for the drop in production due to a strike.
I deserve to be beaten up because I'm obviously a horrible human being and deserve it.
(To be clear, I'm not actually talking about myself, I'm talking from th perspective of a hypothetical person)
The hypothetical you is the desperate loser in that case. The violence is deserved upon the hypothetical you for failing your fellow man. Not richly deserved, mind you. Scabbing is equivalent to stealing, in my mind.
Wow... just wow...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 03:46:21
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Martial Arts Fiday
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 03:46:24
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Zealous Sin-Eater
Montreal
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Goliath wrote:I'm unemployed and trying to get a job, and have offered to be payed to make up for the drop in production due to a strike. I deserve to be beaten up because I'm obviously a horrible human being and deserve it. (To be clear, I'm not actually talking about myself, I'm talking from th perspective of a hypothetical person) If the hypothetical person in question doesn't realize the implication of her actions for those who have worked for that company many years, and are struggling to get their point across to management, then yes, that hypothetical person deserves a beating, not because they are intentionnaly evil, but because they are plain dumb. Mind you, a small beating, not something that lands you in the hospital.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 03:47:06
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Sheffield, City of University and Northern-ness
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whembly wrote:feeder wrote: Goliath wrote:feeder wrote:As a non-union worker, I am firmly in favour of scabs getting beaten. If a union shop strikes, and the owners want to continue running, then non-union staff (ie management) can pick up the slack.
Scabs deserve whatever violence is visited upon them.
A scab can ben non union.
They may just be someone hired by the company to make sure the product continues to be made during a strike, it isn't a union member who doesn't do what the union tells them.
Even if it were a union member, saying that them being beaten up is entirely justified is a horrible viewpoint to take.
I know what a scab is, and I think they are desperate losers at best and worthless scum at worst (depending on their motivation). I know that violence is a horrible thing, but in the end I feel it is a lesser of two evils.
See... this sort of attitudes is what gives unions a bad name... just saying.
Exactly.
I'm pro-union, and think that strikes should be used, but only when necessary.
The fact that there is an opinion that is accepted as normal, that because someone didn't do what the union told them (even if they aren't a member of that union) they should have bodily harm inflicted upon them makes me sick.
"We're not doing something, if you don't not do it then we'll beat you up" is blackmail, pure and simple, and should not be legal in this day and age, let alone considered to be "deserved". Automatically Appended Next Post: Kovnik Obama wrote: Goliath wrote:I'm unemployed and trying to get a job, and have offered to be payed to make up for the drop in production due to a strike.
I deserve to be beaten up because I'm obviously a horrible human being and deserve it.
(To be clear, I'm not actually talking about myself, I'm talking from th perspective of a hypothetical person)
If the hypothetical person in question doesn't realize the implication of her actions for those who have worked for that company many years, and are struggling to get their point across to management, then yes, that hypothetical person deserves a beating, not because they are intentionnaly evil, but because they are plain dumb.
Mind you, a small beating, not something that lands you in the hospital.
So now it's moved to people deserve violence for breaking strikes, not due to the act of breaking the strike, but because they're stupid?
Okay, what about a worker who has also worked for this company for many years, but isn't a member of a union, and doesn't feel the need to strike?
Do they still deserve to be beaten for breaking the "laws of the strike"?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 04:00:22
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Building a blood in water scent
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Goliath wrote: whembly wrote:feeder wrote: Goliath wrote:feeder wrote:As a non-union worker, I am firmly in favour of scabs getting beaten. If a union shop strikes, and the owners want to continue running, then non-union staff (ie management) can pick up the slack.
Scabs deserve whatever violence is visited upon them.
A scab can ben non union.
They may just be someone hired by the company to make sure the product continues to be made during a strike, it isn't a union member who doesn't do what the union tells them.
Even if it were a union member, saying that them being beaten up is entirely justified is a horrible viewpoint to take.
I know what a scab is, and I think they are desperate losers at best and worthless scum at worst (depending on their motivation). I know that violence is a horrible thing, but in the end I feel it is a lesser of two evils.
See... this sort of attitudes is what gives unions a bad name... just saying.
Exactly.
I'm pro-union, and think that strikes should be used, but only when necessary.
The fact that there is an opinion that is accepted as normal, that because someone didn't do what the union told them (even if they aren't a member of that union) they should have bodily harm inflicted upon them makes me sick.
"We're not doing something, if you don't not do it then we'll beat you up" is blackmail, pure and simple, and should not be legal in this day and age, let alone considered to be "deserved".
Look, I said it was a lesser of two evils. I'm not gleeful or gloating about it. Generally crossing a picket line starts with shouting and shoving before degenerating into actual violence. It's not going to be a surprise. And clearly it's not legal.
If you are pro-union, then how would you prevent a scab from crossing a picket line? By agreeing to scab, one has already broken from his fellows.
I would rather a few scabs deal with their injuries for a few weeks than an entire shop full of workers lose their livelihood.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 04:03:49
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Zealous Sin-Eater
Montreal
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Goliath wrote: whembly wrote:feeder wrote: Goliath wrote:feeder wrote:As a non-union worker, I am firmly in favour of scabs getting beaten. If a union shop strikes, and the owners want to continue running, then non-union staff (ie management) can pick up the slack.
Scabs deserve whatever violence is visited upon them.
A scab can ben non union.
They may just be someone hired by the company to make sure the product continues to be made during a strike, it isn't a union member who doesn't do what the union tells them.
Even if it were a union member, saying that them being beaten up is entirely justified is a horrible viewpoint to take.
I know what a scab is, and I think they are desperate losers at best and worthless scum at worst (depending on their motivation). I know that violence is a horrible thing, but in the end I feel it is a lesser of two evils.
See... this sort of attitudes is what gives unions a bad name... just saying.
Exactly.
I'm pro-union, and think that strikes should be used, but only when necessary.
The fact that there is an opinion that is accepted as normal, that because someone didn't do what the union told them (even if they aren't a member of that union) they should have bodily harm inflicted upon them makes me sick.
"We're not doing something, if you don't not do it then we'll beat you up" is blackmail, pure and simple, and should not be legal in this day and age, let alone considered to be "deserved".
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Kovnik Obama wrote: Goliath wrote:I'm unemployed and trying to get a job, and have offered to be payed to make up for the drop in production due to a strike.
I deserve to be beaten up because I'm obviously a horrible human being and deserve it.
(To be clear, I'm not actually talking about myself, I'm talking from th perspective of a hypothetical person)
If the hypothetical person in question doesn't realize the implication of her actions for those who have worked for that company many years, and are struggling to get their point across to management, then yes, that hypothetical person deserves a beating, not because they are intentionnaly evil, but because they are plain dumb.
Mind you, a small beating, not something that lands you in the hospital.
So now it's moved to people deserve violence for breaking strikes, not due to the act of breaking the strike, but because they're stupid?
Okay, what about a worker who has also worked for this company for many years, but isn't a member of a union, and doesn't feel the need to strike?
Do they still deserve to be beaten for breaking the "laws of the strike"?
A strike only applies to the unionised members. A cadre can, if he want, try to run the entire company by himself.
You'll note that in Quebec, use of scabs is banned.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 04:07:35
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
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feeder wrote:
Look, I said it was a lesser of two evils. I'm not gleeful or gloating about it. Generally crossing a picket line starts with shouting and shoving before degenerating into actual violence. It's not going to be a surprise. And clearly it's not legal.
If you are pro-union, then how would you prevent a scab from crossing a picket line? By agreeing to scab, one has already broken from his fellows.
I would rather a few scabs deal with their injuries for a few weeks than an entire shop full of workers lose their livelihood.
And sometimes, you can only look after yourself and your family.
Again... that 'ttude you're expressing here is why unions have a bad name...
For the record, I have no problems with unions. Just as I have no problems about big business. Both group can do good things just as well as bad things.
Frankly, unions are losing the PR battle. Just look at MI for cripes sake! It's going to be a Right-to-Work state.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 04:11:39
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'm gonna go to California when I can to go and scab sometime now, and I'm a union guy!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 04:16:48
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Zealous Sin-Eater
Montreal
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whembly wrote:And sometimes, you can only look after yourself and your family. Which is exactly why you should affiliate yourself to a strong union, so that they can back your salary up to a maximum.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 04:16:57
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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d-usa wrote:I'm gonna go to California when I can to go and scab sometime now, and I'm a union guy!
Not sure if serious, or comment on how people keep on declaring whether they are "pro union" or "anti union" in their comments..
I'm assuming the latter
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 04:21:04
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'm a union guy, belong to the one at work.
I also know that hospitals can't close down during a strike. So a strike won't shut the hospital down and stop production, but if forces them to spend $2000 for 3 days work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 04:21:29
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Kovnik Obama wrote: whembly wrote:And sometimes, you can only look after yourself and your family.
Which is exactly why you should affiliate yourself to a strong union, so that they can back your salary up to a maximum.
Unions aren't the "end-all, be-all".
Look... strike all you want, but I'm drawing the line of threatening bodily harm... that's all. Automatically Appended Next Post: d-usa wrote:I'm a union guy, belong to the one at work.
I also know that hospitals can't close down during a strike. So a strike won't shut the hospital down and stop production, but if forces them to spend $2000 for 3 days work.
Yup... pretty lucrative.
I think the CVS folks in California are (or were) striking. I know some Pharmacist made serious coin during the strike.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 04:24:17
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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Zealous Sin-Eater
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whembly wrote: Kovnik Obama wrote: whembly wrote:And sometimes, you can only look after yourself and your family.
Which is exactly why you should affiliate yourself to a strong union, so that they can back your salary up to a maximum.
Unions aren't the "end-all, be-all".
Look... strike all you want, but I'm drawing the line of threatening bodily harm... that's all.
And I'm drawing the picketing line. Ba dum tss!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 04:31:32
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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feeder wrote:If you are pro-union, then how would you prevent a scab from crossing a picket line?
You don't. You accept that the right to strike only allows YOU to refuse to work, it doesn't allow you to use the threat of violence to force other people to stop working.
Of course the ideal outcome is that you try to inflict your "minor beating" on someone who is carrying a gun, and you are shot to death in self defense.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 04:39:05
Subject: Way to go, Chrysler
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I used to work in a cabinet shop that had the issue of whether or not to vote to unionize came up. I was a young kid and all for a union until I found out it was the teamsters that was the union trying to organize us.
I started questioning what teamsters had to do with cabinet making, the situation was getting ugly, and the union got voted down.
I believe there was another attempt to organize a few years after I left the place, but it ended up burning to the ground before any votes were taken.
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