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 Dawnbringer wrote:
 Godless-Mimicry wrote:
 SneakyMek wrote:
I think besides doing a price change,GW should reconsider doing better models for Lotr as well since some of them are rather boring and well very limited poses or variations if any.

They could start doing multi-part kits like they do for 40K and Fantasy but for Lotr, the problem would most likely be the prices on those though.


I'm pretty sure they can't. I have never seen any company do 25mm scale models that are posable. The models are just too small and dainty.

And I don't really think there's too much to complain about, because lack of posing is made up for in the details, as LoTR models are the most detailed models GW make.


Umm, perhaps you should look up the Perry's WotR range. Yes they are 28mm, but so is the GW LotR range for about the last 8 years or so (And the metals were for a while before that).


Firstly, no, GW's LoTR range is at 25mm scale and always has been, their Warhammer ranges are at 28mm scale. As for Perry's, last I checked their minis were not mutli-pose miniatures, so I really don't get what your point is.

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The LotR range are a truer 28mm range like many plastic historicals, their regular Warhammer figures are much larger, 30-35mm. 25mm is tiny by comparison.
   
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I am not sure what is not multi-pose about Perry plastics...



   
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 Godless-Mimicry wrote:
GW's LoTR range is at 25mm scale and always has been, their Warhammer ranges are at 28mm scale.
They say their Warhammer ranges are 28mm scale. In truth, very few "28mm scale" models are 28mm scale. Depending on how one chooses to define scale, the average 28mm scale across companies tends to be 30mm to the eye, 32mm overall. LotR is about 28mm overall. This, however, is not the main difference in size.

The difference is in the proportion. GW's Warhammer ranges are "heroic", with chunky builds - thick limbs, proportionally large heads, bulky torsos, oversized weapons*. The LotR ranges are much more proportionally correct.

This is partly why I sculpt to about 58mm scale when I'm making scratch builds for Inquisitor (54mm, although I do 28mm as well). As I prefer using natural proportions and anatomy, the models can tend to look small alongside the bulky Inquisitor models (despite the fact that the chunkiness is less exaggerated on GW's 54mm Inquisitor models).
I therefore tend to sculpt slightly bigger, such that the anatomy looks less spindly in proportion, and then use a thinner base to cheat back a couple of mm on the height.

*Seriously so. I can use GW's 28mm weapons on the 58mm sculpts. This Battle Sister uses a converted Phobos pattern, a coupla grenades and Space Marine hands. As reference to the art she's based off will tell you, it's all pretty much in scale - for example, the bolter is about the same length as her lower leg on both model and art.
I will however concede that the Phobos is slightly larger than a normal plastic bolter.

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 Godless-Mimicry wrote:
 Dawnbringer wrote:
 Godless-Mimicry wrote:
 SneakyMek wrote:
I think besides doing a price change,GW should reconsider doing better models for Lotr as well since some of them are rather boring and well very limited poses or variations if any.

They could start doing multi-part kits like they do for 40K and Fantasy but for Lotr, the problem would most likely be the prices on those though.


I'm pretty sure they can't. I have never seen any company do 25mm scale models that are posable. The models are just too small and dainty.

And I don't really think there's too much to complain about, because lack of posing is made up for in the details, as LoTR models are the most detailed models GW make.


Umm, perhaps you should look up the Perry's WotR range. Yes they are 28mm, but so is the GW LotR range for about the last 8 years or so (And the metals were for a while before that).


Firstly, no, GW's LoTR range is at 25mm scale and always has been, their Warhammer ranges are at 28mm scale. As for Perry's, last I checked their minis were not mutli-pose miniatures, so I really don't get what your point is.


Actually, it isn't and hasn't been since the first half dozen plastic sets came out (within a year or 2 of RotK) came out. Also, the metals never were. Just go compare a metal Ranger of Gondor with one of the plastic Rohan or WoMT guys and try and tell me he is 25mm. Trying to say LoTR is 25mm is like saying the sky is pink at noon just because you looked at it at dawn.

Next, look at: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9f1rGXBfBqY/T_48nq18qWI/AAAAAAAAEsY/eRQ_ew56hbY/s1600/SAM_6621.JPG

or:
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g57/craig_welter/Miniatures/100_0303.jpg

or:
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g57/craig_welter/Miniatures/100_0301.jpg

Just as multipart as GW's fantasy offerings.

Next time try acting on what has been suggested rather than just ignoring someone and saying they are wrong.
   
 
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