Helldrake + Vector Strike against skimmer, jink save allowed?

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**HawaiiMatt**

Eldercaveman wrote:
However, note that Flyers and Flying Monsterous Creatures wouldn't get a jink save against Vector Strikes, in both the Dive and Evade special rules, it is worded that after your opponent has rolled to hit, but before rolls to wound/penetration are made you may attempt to Dive/Evade. Now since Vector Strike doesn't roll to hit, you can't gain Jink from Dive/Evade.

Nice find.

-Matt

**Eldercaveman**

Yeah came up in one of my games a while back, useful thing to know.

**jdjamesdean@mail.com**

Happyjew wrote:
jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:
Red Comet wrote:
Grey Templar wrote:
It doesn't matter what the fluff is. Full =/= rules.

The fact that it is not a CC attack means you can take cover saves against it.

I thought I should bring this up, but usually the rules are made to reflect fluff. Look at the most recent change to the Night Scythes transportation rules which accurately reflect the fluff.

Don't see anything new to their FAQ.
Also note that in the fluff from one of the books, the necrons die in the explosion. (fluffy)

From what I've seen it's been updated in the iOS version. The FAQ will reflect it in about 2 months when they release updates to fix the DA codex.

Ah, well than look forward to it in a couple months as I have recently stumbled onto some necrons.
Is it really that hard for them to edit the FAQs. GW does fail pretty hard quite often.

**Grey Templar**

Eldercaveman wrote:
Yeah came up in one of my games a while back, useful thing to know.

Kinda hard to dodge that giant flying dragon digging its claws into your hull.

**jdjamesdean@mail.com**

HawaiiMatt wrote:
Eldercaveman wrote:
However, note that Flyers and Flying Monsterous Creatures wouldn't get a jink save against Vector Strikes, in both the Dive and Evade special rules, it is worded that after your opponent has rolled to hit, but before rolls to wound/penetration are made you may attempt to Dive/Evade. Now since Vector Strike doesn't roll to hit, you can't gain Jink from Dive/Evade.

Nice find.

-Matt

Agreed, good knowledge.

**Red Comet**

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:
Red Comet wrote:
Grey Templar wrote:
It doesn't matter what the fluff is. Full =/= rules.

The fact that it is not a CC attack means you can take cover saves against it.

I thought I should bring this up, but usually the rules are made to reflect fluff. Look at the most recent change to the Night Scythes transportation rules which accurately reflect the fluff.

Don't see anything new to their FAQ.
Also note that in the fluff from one of the books, the necrons die in the explosion. (fluffy)

I'm not sure if its against Dakka rules to post the screenshot of the updated Ipad entry, but you can check other sites to find it. I'd link you, but I don't want to break the rules.

**Happyjew**

It was already linked, recently. Should still be on the first page.

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Is in the poll, on whether or not they take damage and can use RP.

**Formosa**

Vector autohits, so thats when fmc would decide

**omerakk**

Well, if we want to get really crazy, the faq says that any attack that doesn't roll to hit or auto hits can't be used on a swooping flying MC or a zooming flyer.

Later, it has another entry that says vector strike can be used on a zooming flyer... but it doesn't say it can be used against an fmc.

**pk1**

Eldercaveman wrote:
However, note that Flyers and Flying Monsterous Creatures wouldn't get a jink save against Vector Strikes, in both the Dive and Evade special rules, it is worded that after your opponent has rolled to hit, but before rolls to wound/penetration are made you may attempt to Dive/Evade. Now since Vector Strike doesn't roll to hit, you can't gain Jink from Dive/Evade.

and you don't take a grounding test from a vector strike because its not a shooting attack.

**Eldercaveman**

pk1 wrote:
Eldercaveman wrote:
However, note that Flyers and Flying Monsterous Creatures wouldn't get a jink save against Vector Strikes, in both the Dive and Evade special rules, it is worded that after your opponent has rolled to hit, but before rolls to wound/penetration are made you may attempt to Dive/Evade. Now since Vector Strike doesn't roll to hit, you can't gain Jink from Dive/Evade.

and you don't take a grounding test from a vector strike because its not a shooting attack.

Yeah that's another thing people often miss.