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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 14:13:17
Subject: Re:Black Knight Tactica
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Sister Vastly Superior
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Lol typo LC
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They say you never appreciate what you have until it is gone. I fear that isn't true for your mind. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 15:58:19
Subject: Black Knight Tactica
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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The single LC gets 3 attacks on the charge. So 1.5 hits, .75 wounds, but with reroll that's 1.12 wounds. PS would be 4 attacks, 2 hit, 1 wound... LC comes out slightly ahead. I've got 4 painted LC command squad bikers from when I run this list as White Scars and I have 4 PS sarges, so I'm really just putting my best painted models out right now. In tourney play I'd go 3xLC or maybe use a PA (I've got one one a biker).
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DO:70S++G++M+B++I+Pw40k93/f#++D++++A++++/eWD-R++++T(D)DM+
Note: Records since 2010, lists kept current (W-D-L) Blue DP Crusade 126-11-6 Biel-Tan Aspect Waves 2-0-2 Looted Green Horde smash your face in 32-7-8 Broadside/Shield Drone/Kroot blitz goodness 23-3-4 Grey Hunters galore 17-5-5 Khan Bikes Win 63-1-1 Tanith with Pardus Armor 11-0-0 Crimson Tide 59-4-0 Green/Raven/Deathwing 18-0-0 Jumping GK force with Inq. 4-0-0 BTemplars w LRs 7-1-2 IH Legion with Automata 8-0-0 RG Legion w Adepticon medal 6-0-0 Primaris and Little Buddies 7-0-0
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 16:15:25
Subject: Re:Black Knight Tactica
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Sister Vastly Superior
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I don't have the book handy. Does it give power weapon as a general option? Or is it very specific on our list of CCws
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They say you never appreciate what you have until it is gone. I fear that isn't true for your mind. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 18:57:36
Subject: Black Knight Tactica
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Wing Commander
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Have you had to square up against Hive Guard? I'm not sure how the no-cover St 8 AP3 would go with the expensive black knights. Some units that seem scary to the bks, like colossus are super rare so I don't think it's a big deal but it seems like there are plenty of hive guard in every Nid list
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Abadabadoobaddon wrote:Phoenix wrote:Well I don't think the battle company would do much to bolster the ranks of my eldar army  so no.
Nonsense. The Battle Company box is perfect for filling out your ranks of aspect warriors with a large contingent from the Screaming Baldies shrine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 19:09:50
Subject: Re:Black Knight Tactica
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Cowboy Wannabe
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Note Hive guard are only AP4... so not that much to worry about from them..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 22:11:06
Subject: Re:Black Knight Tactica
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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canadianguy wrote:I don't have the book handy. Does it give power weapon as a general option? Or is it very specific on our list of CCws
BK Huntmaster is only sword or maul, vet RW sarge has most options as choices.
Dang, I was worried about Hive Guard there, as we have a nid player and I haven't played him yet.
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DO:70S++G++M+B++I+Pw40k93/f#++D++++A++++/eWD-R++++T(D)DM+
Note: Records since 2010, lists kept current (W-D-L) Blue DP Crusade 126-11-6 Biel-Tan Aspect Waves 2-0-2 Looted Green Horde smash your face in 32-7-8 Broadside/Shield Drone/Kroot blitz goodness 23-3-4 Grey Hunters galore 17-5-5 Khan Bikes Win 63-1-1 Tanith with Pardus Armor 11-0-0 Crimson Tide 59-4-0 Green/Raven/Deathwing 18-0-0 Jumping GK force with Inq. 4-0-0 BTemplars w LRs 7-1-2 IH Legion with Automata 8-0-0 RG Legion w Adepticon medal 6-0-0 Primaris and Little Buddies 7-0-0
QM Templates here, HH army builder app for both v1 and v2
One Page 40k Ruleset for Game Beginners |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/25 02:49:20
Subject: Re:Black Knight Tactica
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
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What's the optimal number of BK to field? I am currently in the process of making five, which seems the sweet spot for threat/damage ratio. You dropped your squad though, why?
A ten man BK squad seems kind of unwieldy and clumsy- unless shooting at something ridiculous like 10 nurgle bikers, its firepower will always go to waste, and when you assault you're almost guaranteed to slaughter whatever you charge.
I was thinking of running a BK deathstar but it does seem like a sledgehammer against the peanuts of every other unit in the game. The only thing I can think of surviving a turn of the 10 man is a Fortuned Harliestar with shadowfield Archons, literally the toughest unit in a game, or a fortuned Seer Council, which will die horribly in assault. Isn't two units of 5 more versatile (force org chart willing?)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/25 03:33:45
Subject: Black Knight Tactica
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Stormin' Stompa
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I prefer 6 or 7 BKs. Two grenade launchers and an extra wound.
The seventh guy is mostly motivated by the fact that the points happened to fit with an extra guy in my first army-list....and he has just hung around since then.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/25 07:37:42
Subject: Black Knight Tactica
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Steelmage99 wrote:I prefer 6 or 7 BKs. Two grenade launchers and an extra wound.
The seventh guy is mostly motivated by the fact that the points happened to fit with an extra guy in my first army-list....and he has just hung around since then.
100% agree. For a tournament I would run 2 squads of 6, with extra points maybe 7. The reason I run a full squad of 10 is twofold. A) there are so many stomping deathstars in my local meta that I know I'm going to get targets for all my shots. B) with a Libby I want my boosts to effect the whole squad, so if they gain an invuln, have full BS overwatch, or get rerolls on a charge, I'm gonna want it for the most models possible when facing things like Mortarion with 10 Termies or 10 incubi with a warlord on the charge.
EDIT: way too many typos.
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DO:70S++G++M+B++I+Pw40k93/f#++D++++A++++/eWD-R++++T(D)DM+
Note: Records since 2010, lists kept current (W-D-L) Blue DP Crusade 126-11-6 Biel-Tan Aspect Waves 2-0-2 Looted Green Horde smash your face in 32-7-8 Broadside/Shield Drone/Kroot blitz goodness 23-3-4 Grey Hunters galore 17-5-5 Khan Bikes Win 63-1-1 Tanith with Pardus Armor 11-0-0 Crimson Tide 59-4-0 Green/Raven/Deathwing 18-0-0 Jumping GK force with Inq. 4-0-0 BTemplars w LRs 7-1-2 IH Legion with Automata 8-0-0 RG Legion w Adepticon medal 6-0-0 Primaris and Little Buddies 7-0-0
QM Templates here, HH army builder app for both v1 and v2
One Page 40k Ruleset for Game Beginners |
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