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 Happyjew wrote:

 Idolator wrote:

 Happyjew wrote:
Weaken Resolve is a negative modifier, so in your example, you'd be Ld 10.

for morale and pinning test only.

And in the example I quoted, the poster was referring to a morale check due to lost combat.

You're right, Sorry. I jumped the gun. (I'm a little reved up on caffeine)

 Happyjew wrote:


The problem with set modifiers are positive or negative is the following:

GK FAQ wrote:Q: Are units with either the Stubborn or Mob Rule! special rules
effected by the ‘They’re horrible’ result of the psychotroke grenade?
(p60)
A: Yes, such units will be reduced to Leadership 2. However a
unit with the Mob Rule! special rule that has 11 or more
models will still be Fearless.

This kinda ignores the simple fact that GW FAQs have been contradictory, i.e. conflicting with either precedent or written rule in such a ways that they really can said to be objectively "wrong", like all the time



Anyway, I'm pretty sure stubborn > Weaken Resolve has been settled law for a long time.

Man, a month ago I tried to make this case and the whole board jumped on my case. Where were you all back then?

The weaken resolve rule REDUCES the leadership value. Is the word reduce a negative modifier? if yes then stubborn works for morale checks. if its not then they are leadership 2 and run, but auto regroup the next turn.

REDUCE :to bring down to a smaller extent, size, amount, number,
It's a tricky one for sure.

Im going to say that it does ignore the leadership negative for morale checks.