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I have two minor questions, and I don't want to make a separate thread for it.

If a squad assaults a trukk and blows it up, can the boys inside back away and open fire next turn, or are they "locked in combat" because the enemy was in hand-to-hand with their vehicle?

and

You get +1 strength when you charge as orks, and you get x2 strength when you attack with a power klaw. Is it 4+1x2=10, or 4x2+1=9 strength?

They are not locked in combat. Essentially the only way to be locked is if your unit was charged or completed a charge.

For the second question, read how characteristics are modified on page 2,3 and I think 4.

Snoipah wrote:
I have two minor questions, and I don't want to make a separate thread for it.

If a squad assaults a trukk and blows it up, can the boys inside back away and open fire next turn, or are they "locked in combat" because the enemy was in hand-to-hand with their vehicle?

Top left of page 80 (BRB)

You get +1 strength when you charge as orks, and you get x2 strength when you attack with a power klaw. Is it 4+1x2=10, or 4x2+1=9 strength?

BRB Page 2, Multiple Modifiers

Snoipah wrote:

I don't believe overwatch to be as strong as people make it out to be.

Tell that to my Termies, who, if they even make the charge ( for a four inch charge??), lose a model to melta/plasma pretty much 80% of the time.

 Happyjew wrote:

Top left of page 80 (BRB)

BRB Page 2, Multiple Modifiers

Thanks.

I feel like Deff Koptaz are really overrated.

Buzzsaw gives him a strength 7 attack, which can't pop a land raider.......

...........which is what EVERYONE ing uses.

Koptas are best for harassment. I don't take buzzsaws. If I get first turn, I put them up front, scout move and blow up a rhino or something for first blood. If I go second, I outflank them and harass any backfield dakka unit. Guaranteed to make your opponent direct ALL of their fire at them for a turn.

SNoipah - that is what S10 warboss powerklaws, or S9 boyz mob powerklaws, are for. Or S10 tankhammers....

nosferatu1001 wrote:
SNoipah - that is what S10 warboss powerklaws, or S9 boyz mob powerklaws, are for. Or S10 tankhammers....

I don't run a warboss, I run a "dakka fortress" strategy.

I have 3 trukks of shoota boyz(with nobs with power klaws of course) and in one of the trukks is a big mek with a Kustom Force Field.

A battlewagon(without a killakannon) full of boyz(and a nob w/ klaw)

2 looted wagons with boomguns

and I have an optional 6 nob bikers(ones a painboy) with power klaws and combi shoota/scorchas and 3 deff koptaz, which I dont like to take.

Snoipah wrote:I feel like Deff Koptaz are really overrated.

Buzzsaw gives him a strength 7 attack, which can't pop a land raider.......

...........which is what EVERYONE ing uses.

Snoipah wrote:
I don't run a warboss, I run a "dakka fortress" strategy.

I have 3 trukks of shoota boyz(with nobs with power klaws of course) and in one of the trukks is a big mek with a Kustom Force Field.

A battlewagon(without a killakannon) full of boyz(and a nob w/ klaw)

2 looted wagons with boomguns

and I have an optional 6 nob bikers(ones a painboy) with power klaws and combi shoota/scorchas and 3 deff koptaz, which I dont like to take.

So you don't run anything that can take out a Land Raider, and then complain about EVERYONE Taking Land Raiders?

Son, your in the wrong game...

Bloodhorror wrote:


So you don't run anything that can take out a Land Raider, and then complain about EVERYONE Taking Land Raiders?

Son, your in the wrong game...

Actually I use my Bikers for that, they do a pretty good job popping them, I just find koptaz useless cause they cant.

so use your the Koptaz for popping light transports so your Boyz can get to Umies inside !

Bloodhorror wrote:
so use your the Koptaz for popping light transports so your Boyz can get to Umies inside !

Actually I keep my boys in my trukks and shoot shoot shoot, usually.

Sometimes I face a army that out-shoots me(which is rare) and take the charge, but I can usually pop light transports with big shootaz alone.

Buzzsaws feel kind of like wasted points...then again, every person I fight always plays at a point value I can't reach so it doesn't matter too much.

On the rule of charging after you run, is you cannot charge if you run. In the rules book page, page 14 top left second paragraph. Even if it's a waaagh. He seems a hit like that efn guy.

Using the same thread I made many weeks ago to ask this simple question.

Lets say a squad shoots at another squad, their range is 18 inches, and there is a squad of 10 guys HOWEVER only 1 is within 18 inches. Does this mean only the one can be hit by the squad shooting, or the entire group that is being shot at?

Snoipah wrote:
Using the same thread I made many weeks ago to ask this simple question.

Lets say a squad shoots at another squad, their range is 18 inches, and there is a squad of 10 guys HOWEVER only 1 is within 18 inches. Does this mean only the one can be hit by the squad shooting, or the entire group that is being shot at?

From the main Rulebook FAQ: (http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3030001a_40K_RULEBOOK_v1.3_FEBRUARY13.pdf)

Q: When making a Shooting attack against a unit, can Wounds from the Wound Pool be allocated to models that were not within range any of the shooting models when To Hit rolls were made (i.e. half the targeted model are in the shooting models’ range, and half are not)? (p15)
A: No

Well, today is the day where he returns to the store.

Hopefully he looked up and understands the rules now, I hate feeling like a WAAC player, I just want to play the game by the rules, yakno?

I just want to play Warhammer 40,000, not Battlemace Many Millenia.