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2013/04/27 01:59:01
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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 Lordhat wrote: Goliath wrote: Lordhat wrote:MarsNZ wrote:Isolated incident being used as conclusive evidence that guns make a community safe. Wonder how it would have gone down had the mentally unstable man had access to firearms, oh wait, we've all seen that happen dozens of times.
How many of these do I need to post before they're no longer 'isolated'? Cause that's my goal.
"We'll I saw a few articles posted by Lordhat on Dakka about people with guns playing the hero*, but didn't see any posted on Dakka about people with guns being evil, so there is definitely no problem at all with gun violence, otherwise I'd have heard anecdotal evidence"
Said no one ever.
*with a teeny tiny whiff of confirmation bias.
Such a statement is not my goal. Guns doing harm always gets a lot of press; guns doing good, not so much. Just trying to rectify the imbalance. Pontificating, I leave to others nowadays.
I think that's mainly because an item made for the sole purpose of killing humans isn't seen as a force of good by most of the civilized world.
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2013/04/27 02:01:37
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Fate-Controlling Farseer
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 Soladrin wrote: Lordhat wrote: Goliath wrote: Lordhat wrote:MarsNZ wrote:Isolated incident being used as conclusive evidence that guns make a community safe. Wonder how it would have gone down had the mentally unstable man had access to firearms, oh wait, we've all seen that happen dozens of times.
How many of these do I need to post before they're no longer 'isolated'? Cause that's my goal.
"We'll I saw a few articles posted by Lordhat on Dakka about people with guns playing the hero*, but didn't see any posted on Dakka about people with guns being evil, so there is definitely no problem at all with gun violence, otherwise I'd have heard anecdotal evidence"
Said no one ever.
*with a teeny tiny whiff of confirmation bias.
Such a statement is not my goal. Guns doing harm always gets a lot of press; guns doing good, not so much. Just trying to rectify the imbalance. Pontificating, I leave to others nowadays.
I think that's mainly because an item made for the sole purpose of killing humans isn't seen as a force of good by most of the civilized world.
A tool is only what a person makes of it. I use it for the sole purpose of entertainment, providing sustenance for my family, and protection of my family and others if necessary. I have no intention of EVER using one to kill humans. Funny, all the use I get out of mine, all the purpose I find for them, and none of it involves killing humans. Maybe if others would start realizing it's not purely a killing machine, they won't be so put off with it.
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2013/04/27 02:17:17
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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So... should I start a thread every single time a firearm is used for evil, rather than stop it?
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2013/04/27 02:19:46
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Fixture of Dakka
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 azazel the cat wrote:
So... should I start a thread every single time a firearm is used for evil, rather than stop it?
lol. 
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/04/27 02:20:20
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2013/04/27 02:31:18
Subject: Re:Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Stormin' Stompa
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Lordhat wrote: Mr Nobody wrote:Hey, sometimes they shoot the badguy sometimes they shoot the goodguy. Either way, a gun will shoot something.
Incorrect. A gun never shoots anything. People shoot guns, and that didn't even happen this time. The only injuries were caused by a knife.
I know, the point is a gun can do bad things and good things because their relative lethality.
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2013/04/27 02:49:29
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The derp wave this thread generated in the rest of the OT forum is delicious.
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2013/04/27 02:52:25
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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azazel the cat wrote:
So... should I start a thread every single time a firearm is used for evil, rather than stop it?
You don't really need to, it happens anyway.
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.
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2013/04/27 02:54:30
Subject: Re:Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Don't even think of posting 100 reasons why to own a weapon.....
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2013/04/27 02:57:49
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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Lordhat wrote: azazel the cat wrote:
So... should I start a thread every single time a firearm is used for evil, rather than stop it?
You don't really need to, it happens anyway.
You sure about that? Please find an example that isn't exceptional (barring the recent one that's quite obviously satire).
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2013/04/27 03:04:38
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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azazel the cat wrote:Lordhat wrote: azazel the cat wrote:
So... should I start a thread every single time a firearm is used for evil, rather than stop it?
You don't really need to, it happens anyway.
You sure about that? Please find an example that isn't exceptional (barring the recent one that's quite obviously satire).
It was hilarious. 
I must infer that you would only like to see 'exceptional' instances of a firearm saving lives; What would the criteria for that be? Number of lives saved? How would one measure that? It's easy to count the number of lives taken in an incident.
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.
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2013/04/27 03:07:24
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Fixture of Dakka
Kamloops, BC
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 Monster Rain wrote:The derp wave this thread generated in the rest of the OT forum is delicious.
I love it too.
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2013/04/27 03:08:30
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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Lordhat wrote: azazel the cat wrote:Lordhat wrote: azazel the cat wrote:
So... should I start a thread every single time a firearm is used for evil, rather than stop it?
You don't really need to, it happens anyway.
You sure about that? Please find an example that isn't exceptional (barring the recent one that's quite obviously satire).
It was hilarious.
I must infer that you would only like to see 'exceptional' instances of a firearm saving lives; What would the criteria for that be? Number of lives saved? How would one measure that? It's easy to count the number of lives taken in an incident.
You do bring up a good point. I suppose I view it as less of a binary situation because whenever someone posts a thread about, say, a mass shooting, I view it as a news story in an of itself, and not an anti-gun advertisement (despite the thread's inevitable devolution), whereas a thread such as this one I consider to be intended as a pro-gun advertisement. There is no news story here beyond the polarizing element, whereas the other side of the coin actually has something newsworthy about it on its surface.
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2013/04/27 06:12:52
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Somewhere in south-central England.
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If this is a commonplace event, it is not particularly newsworthy.
If not commonplace it undermines that idea that guns are keeping people safe.
I do think we have a few too many gun threads going on at the moment. It would be best to fold this one into one of the others.
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