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2013/04/26 23:48:12
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story/conceal-and-carry-stabbing-salt-lake-city-smiths/NDNrL1gxeE2rsRhrWCM9dQ.cspx
SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) - A citizen with a gun stopped a knife wielding man as he began stabbing people Thursday evening at the downtown Salt Lake City Smith's store.
Police say the suspect purchased a knife inside the store and then turned it into a weapon. Smith's employee Dorothy Espinoza says, "He pulled it out and stood outside the Smiths in the foyer. And just started stabbing people and yelling you killed my people. You killed my people."
Espinoza says, the knife wielding man seriously injured two people. "There is blood all over. One got stabbed in the stomach and got stabbed in the head and held his hands and got stabbed all over the arms."
Then, before the suspect could find another victim - a citizen with a gun stopped the madness. "A guy pulled gun on him and told him to drop his weapon or he would shoot him. So, he dropped his weapon and the people from Smith's grabbed him."
By the time officers arrived the suspect had been subdued by employees and shoppers. Police had high praise for gun carrying man who ended the hysteria. Lt. Brian Purvis said, "This was a volatile situation that could have gotten worse. We can only assume from what we saw it could have gotten worse. He was definitely in the right place at the right time."
Dozens of other shoppers, who too could have become victims, are also thankful for the gun carrying man. And many, like Danylle Julian, are still in shock from the experience. "Scary actually. Really scary. Five minutes before I walk out to my car. It could have been me."
Police say right now they have no idea what caused the suspect to go on the dangerous rampage. (We will update as soon as we learn new information.)
So far, police have not released the names of the suspect, the victims or the man who pulled the gun.
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.
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2013/04/26 23:50:28
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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Thank you for posting this  I'm glad the attacker was stopped before he harmed others.
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2013/04/26 23:51:58
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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This can't be right.
I read on the internet that this doesn't happen.
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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
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2013/04/26 23:54:33
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.
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2013/04/26 23:57:44
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Fate-Controlling Farseer
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And he didn't even have to pull the trigger?
You got this from the Onion didn't you? We all know it's impossible for citizens to responsibly use fire arms without turning the place into the O.K. Corral.
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2013/04/26 23:59:02
Subject: Re:Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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But...but... gunz are evil.
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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2013/04/27 00:02:13
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Nurgle Veteran Marine with the Flu
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Knives should be banned. 
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2013/04/27 00:04:39
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Sheffield, City of University and Northern-ness
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Yes, we get it.
Event involving a gun used positively = Cause to make jokes at the expense of the gun control crowd.
Well done, you guys are champions of debate.
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2013/04/27 00:06:00
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Fate-Controlling Farseer
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 Goliath wrote:Yes, we get it.
Event involving a gun used positively = Cause to make jokes at the expense of the gun control crowd.
Well done, you guys are champions of debate.
Why thank you.
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2013/04/27 00:10:55
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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Goliath wrote:Yes, we get it.
Event involving a gun used positively = Cause to make jokes at the expense of the gun control crowd.
Well done, you guys are champions of debate.
Hey, you got a nibble Lordhat.
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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
W: 1.756 Quadrillion L: 0 D: 2
Haters gon' hate. |
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2013/04/27 00:13:26
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Fixture of Dakka
Kamloops, BC
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Goliath wrote:Yes, we get it.
Event involving a gun used positively = Cause to make jokes at the expense of the gun control crowd.
Well done, you guys are champions of debate.
The irony is that the real joke is on the US and not us.
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2013/04/27 00:15:43
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Goliath wrote:Yes, we get it.
Event involving a gun used positively = Cause to make jokes at the expense of the gun control crowd.
Well done, you guys are champions of debate.
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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2013/04/27 00:19:07
Subject: Re:Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Fixture of Dakka
Kamloops, BC
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Um, literally no one's arguing that.
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2013/04/27 00:26:48
Subject: Re:Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Just wanted an excuse to post that...
Well... how's this then?
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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2013/04/27 00:33:16
Subject: Re:Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Fixture of Dakka
Kamloops, BC
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 whembly wrote: Just wanted an excuse to post that... Well... how's this then?
The thing is this is a phenomenon that's happening to pretty much in all developed countries (as far as I'm aware), but by problem with gun violence in the US is it's disproportionately higher than other developed countries.
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2013/04/27 00:38:38
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Isolated incident being used as conclusive evidence that guns make a community safe. Wonder how it would have gone down had the mentally unstable man had access to firearms, oh wait, we've all seen that happen dozens of times.
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2013/04/27 00:39:42
Subject: Re:Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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 Cheesecat wrote:
The thing is this is a phenomenon that's happening to pretty much in all developed countries (as far as I'm aware), but by problem with gun violence in the US is it's disproportionally higher than other developed countries.
Is that a W.A.G. ? (wild assed guess)
EDIT: crap... image is huge... spoilering...
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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2013/04/27 00:40:41
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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Look at them desperately try to reframe the subject of the discussion!
Fact: firearms can be useful for the defense of oneself and others. You are aware, now, of at least one example.
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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
W: 1.756 Quadrillion L: 0 D: 2
Haters gon' hate. |
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2013/04/27 00:54:46
Subject: Re:Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Fixture of Dakka
Kamloops, BC
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whembly wrote: Cheesecat wrote:
The thing is this is a phenomenon that's happening to pretty much in all developed countries (as far as I'm aware), but by problem with gun violence in the US is it's disproportionally higher than other developed countries.
Is that a W.A.G. ? (wild assed guess)
EDIT: crap... image is huge... spoilering...
That still doesn't disprove either of my points as you don't need a gun to murder, rape, rob, assault or burglarize someone or something as my statement was on gun violence not on crime in general nor does that graph show an increase or decrease in crime as there's no mention of time
span.
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2013/04/27 00:56:32
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Sheffield, City of University and Northern-ness
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 Monster Rain wrote:Look at them desperately try to reframe the subject of the discussion!
Fact: firearms can be useful for the defense of oneself and others. You are aware, now, of at least one example.
And I am also aware of every other example of a single person with a gun stopping some doing something that gets its own thread, which is rapidly filled with exactly the same self-congratulatory, "hilarious" comments that this thread started off with.
Or every thread where someone was killed by a something that isn't "in danger" of being restricted:
"I guess we should ban knives now too"
"Those assault chainsaws are far too dangerous! Look at how witty I am"
"Maybe if people there had guns this wouldn't have happened"
"High capacity semiautomatic shotguns should obviously be banned now too then, huh?"
Every. Single. Time.
And to tell you the truth, it gets kind of repetitive.
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2013/04/27 00:58:49
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Fixture of Dakka
Kamloops, BC
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Monster Rain wrote:Fact: firearms can be useful for the defense of oneself and others. You are aware, now, of at least one example.
Again, no one disagrees with that.
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2013/04/27 01:00:33
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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MarsNZ wrote:Isolated incident being used as conclusive evidence that guns make a community safe. Wonder how it would have gone down had the mentally unstable man had access to firearms, oh wait, we've all seen that happen dozens of times.
How many of these do I need to post before they're no longer 'isolated'? Cause that's my goal.
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.
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2013/04/27 01:03:11
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Fixture of Dakka
Kamloops, BC
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 Lordhat wrote:MarsNZ wrote:Isolated incident being used as conclusive evidence that guns make a community safe. Wonder how it would have gone down had the mentally unstable man had access to firearms, oh wait, we've all seen that happen dozens of times.
How many of these do I need to post before they're no longer 'isolated'? Cause that's my goal.
Stats > Anecdotes.
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2013/04/27 01:05:45
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Cheesecat wrote: Lordhat wrote:MarsNZ wrote:Isolated incident being used as conclusive evidence that guns make a community safe. Wonder how it would have gone down had the mentally unstable man had access to firearms, oh wait, we've all seen that happen dozens of times.
How many of these do I need to post before they're no longer 'isolated'? Cause that's my goal.
Stats > Anecdotes.
So anything that's not x per y, isn't a fact, even though it actually happened. Gothca.
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.
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2013/04/27 01:05:50
Subject: Re:Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Stormin' Stompa
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Hey, sometimes they shoot the badguy sometimes they shoot the goodguy. Either way, a gun will shoot something.
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2013/04/27 01:06:41
Subject: Re:Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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 Mr Nobody wrote:Hey, sometimes they shoot the badguy sometimes they shoot the goodguy. Either way, a gun will shoot something.
Incorrect. A gun never shoots anything. People shoot guns, and that didn't even happen this time. The only injuries were caused by a knife.
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.
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2013/04/27 01:09:35
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Fixture of Dakka
Kamloops, BC
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Lordhat wrote:So anything that's not x per y, isn't a fact, even though it actually happened. Gothca.
No one is saying that, also stats usually show trends and anecdotes often can't do that.
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2013/04/27 01:09:57
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Sheffield, City of University and Northern-ness
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Lordhat wrote:MarsNZ wrote:Isolated incident being used as conclusive evidence that guns make a community safe. Wonder how it would have gone down had the mentally unstable man had access to firearms, oh wait, we've all seen that happen dozens of times.
How many of these do I need to post before they're no longer 'isolated'? Cause that's my goal.
"We'll I saw a few articles posted by Lordhat on Dakka about people with guns playing the hero*, but didn't see any posted on Dakka about people with guns being evil, so there is definitely no problem at all with gun violence, otherwise I'd have heard anecdotal evidence"
Said no one ever.
*with a teeny tiny whiff of confirmation bias.
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2013/04/27 01:16:23
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Goliath wrote: Lordhat wrote:MarsNZ wrote:Isolated incident being used as conclusive evidence that guns make a community safe. Wonder how it would have gone down had the mentally unstable man had access to firearms, oh wait, we've all seen that happen dozens of times.
How many of these do I need to post before they're no longer 'isolated'? Cause that's my goal.
"We'll I saw a few articles posted by Lordhat on Dakka about people with guns playing the hero*, but didn't see any posted on Dakka about people with guns being evil, so there is definitely no problem at all with gun violence, otherwise I'd have heard anecdotal evidence"
Said no one ever.
*with a teeny tiny whiff of confirmation bias.
Such a statement is not my goal. Guns doing harm always gets a lot of press; guns doing good, not so much. Just trying to rectify the imbalance. Pontificating, I leave to others nowadays.
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.
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2013/04/27 01:32:43
Subject: Gun used to stop stabbing spree
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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eh.
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