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Yeah, its not like they're doing separate jobs so why do you need 2 brains to do the same job.

Turns out it's this massive feminist propaganda movie, humanity is failing while 2 male soldiers can't do it, cue single working mother of 2 who dons the suit and saves humanity.

lol

So... they couldn't make Evangelion but they made evangelion?

Other guy is the back up hard drive.....Someone mention it....Robotech retelling....Harmony Gold still has the rights though? My wife building me a Sky Captain outfit since her outfit is like PotC pirate....seems I'm going to Midsummer Fair in Seattle during Aug?

 Jihadin wrote:
Other guy is the back up hard drive.....Someone mention it....Robotech retelling....Harmony Gold still has the rights though? My wife building me a Sky Captain outfit since her outfit is like PotC pirate....seems I'm going to Midsummer Fair in Seattle during Aug?

Robotech????? heck no Pacific rim is this

 Grey Templar wrote:
Yeah, its not like they're doing separate jobs so why do you need 2 brains to do the same job.

Indeed, they should have patterned them after our real skyscraper sized boxing robots. Oh wait...

I imagine there is some reason given in the film for why two people have to be synched both together and to the system to make it work. It may be as simple as having a back-up, or it may be that it speeds up efficiency of how well the hosts thoughts are transferred to the machine to make it react. There are any number of reasons they could have, since this is all made up to begin with, and a monster movie, not sci-fi.

The ship doesn't break because a model wouldn't break, and we all know vehicles in Kaiju films are models.

Andrew1975 wrote:hmm, don't get it. Why do you need two pilots doing the same thing? That would be like two pilots trying to fly the same plane at the same time...in combat. I'm sure they will explain it somehow.

Looks ok, just weary of these big budget movie by committee deals. They are entertaining when you are 10, but don't age well. I know Independence day made a lot of movie and some people love explosion porn, but could we please write good stories with the explosion porn. Seriously, Independence day makes my head hurt the story is just that bad.

Yeah, it's not at all like Independence Day was a decent re-imagining of War of the Worlds or anything.

Jihadin wrote:Other guy is the back up hard drive.....Someone mention it....Robotech retelling....Harmony Gold still has the rights though? My wife building me a Sky Captain outfit since her outfit is like PotC pirate....seems I'm going to Midsummer Fair in Seattle during Aug?

What's going on in Seattle?

I cannot wait for this movie. I don't care if it is garbage, it will be highly entertaining.

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My bad. Its a Rennaisance Fair. Except you can dress up. I promised her I go after Chemo and she can pick the outfit......seems I be going....Last year I went for one day....turkey leg...female selling pickles....and jousting were cool...

Ah, a ren faire. Not quite my style then. I typically go for the pop culture & scifi stuff.

Shame. I'd have totally told ya to keep an eye out for Cobra.

You could show up anyway

I think it'd take too much work to ren-faire modify the Cobra crew (although it'd be hilarious).

Hmmm... ah Hell, it's 3-4. I'm already booked on that weekend anyway.

Yeah, it's not at all like Independence Day was a decent re-imagining of War of the Worlds or anything.

Not sure if joking, but I really really hope so.

Andrew1975 wrote:

Yeah, it's not at all like Independence Day was a decent re-imagining of War of the Worlds or anything.

Not sure if joking, but I really really hope so.

Not a joke. Don't look for any revelations in it, but for a mid-July explosion porn film, it's an 8/10 in that category. (compare it to crap like Spielberg's War of the Worlds or Emmerich's Day After Tomorrow, which I'd place at a firm 6 and 4, respectively.)

I sure hope Day After Tomorrow is a low score on the explosion porn scale, considering it's complete lack of explosions.

It gets mega bonus points for Emmy Rossum though.

 azazel the cat wrote:

Andrew1975 wrote:

Yeah, it's not at all like Independence Day was a decent re-imagining of War of the Worlds or anything.

Not sure if joking, but I really really hope so.

Not a joke. Don't look for any revelations in it, but for a mid-July explosion porn film, it's an 8/10 in that category. (compare it to crap like Spielberg's War of the Worlds or Emmerich's Day After Tomorrow, which I'd place at a firm 6 and 4, respectively.)

Here is what is wrong with your statement.

Decent? Independence day is garbage on so many levels, and could only be dreamed up by a 13 year olds idea of "oh that would be cool if". It's terrible on so many levels, I can't really even get into it. There are so many moments that are completely unbelievable and defy any logic that I could not even watch the parts that might be considered cool because my brain was screaming WTF!

War of the worlds? Independence day has nothing to do with War of the Worlds, except that there are aliens in it. By those Standards Star Wars is a retelling of War of the Worlds.

Explosion Porn is fine but an attempt to make it at least somewhat believable or interesting would really be nice. The plot has more holes than swiss cheese. Everything that happens to the characters is basically a big coincidence. The characters are garbage on a colossal level. Untrained Hillbillys flying F-18s?

There are things that you are supposed to ignore or accept as facts in fictional settings, superpowers, aliens, monsters ect..... I'm good with that, actually I'm pretty great at that. But there are just somethings that can't be ignored and that movie is just chock full of them.

I'm not asking for Shakespeare, but they could do better than Saturday morning cartoon realism. I really can't remember everything that upset me about the movie because it was basically a constant assault on my intelligence and I can usually let a lot of stuff slide. Mars attacks is more realistic and even has a better plot and characters than Independence day, and that was a comedy that was meant to be outlandish.

Andrew1975 wrote:

 azazel the cat wrote:

Andrew1975 wrote:

Yeah, it's not at all like Independence Day was a decent re-imagining of War of the Worlds or anything.

Not sure if joking, but I really really hope so.

Not a joke. Don't look for any revelations in it, but for a mid-July explosion porn film, it's an 8/10 in that category. (compare it to crap like Spielberg's War of the Worlds or Emmerich's Day After Tomorrow, which I'd place at a firm 6 and 4, respectively.)

Here is what is wrong with your statement.

Decent? Independence day is garbage on so many levels, and could only be dreamed up by a 13 year olds idea of "oh that would be cool if". It's terrible on so many levels, I can't really even get into it. There are so many moments that are completely unbelievable and defy any logic that I could not even watch the parts that might be considered cool because my brain was screaming WTF!

War of the worlds? Independence day has nothing to do with War of the Worlds, except that there are aliens in it. By those Standards Star Wars is a retelling of War of the Worlds.

Both Independence Day and War of the Worlds are both about an alien invasion that kicks our ass and is eventually defeated by a virus.

i rather enjoyed independence day...

 Andrew1975 wrote:
hmm, don't get it. Why do you need two pilots doing the same thing? That would be like two pilots trying to fly the same plane at the same time...in combat. I'm sure they will explain it somehow.

Looks ok, just weary of these big budget movie by committee deals. They are entertaining when you are 10, but don't age well. I know Independence day made a lot of movie and some people love explosion porn, but could we please write good stories with the explosion porn. Seriously, Independence day makes my head hurt the story is just that bad.

MUD is out this week. You should check it out. Next week is the Iceman.


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 Jihadin wrote:
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My bad. Its a Rennaisance Fair. Except you can dress up. I promised her I go after Chemo and she can pick the outfit......seems I be going....Last year I went for one day....turkey leg...female selling pickles....and jousting were cool...

Ren Faire. Looks awesome. Its one of the things I look forward to going to again in a few months.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Yeah, its not like they're doing separate jobs so why do you need 2 brains to do the same job.

I was just bitching to a coworker about this exact thing.

It's like we're relying on Dance Dance Revolution to save the world...


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 -Loki- wrote:
I sure hope Day After Tomorrow is a low score on the explosion porn scale, considering it's complete lack of explosions.

It gets mega bonus points for Emmy Rossum though.

Never watch that movie with a weather forecaster. It puts us into into a screaming rage frenzy, and your safety may not be gauranteed.

That will really be the crux of this movies technological verisimilitude- the quality of the explanation for why two pilots is better than one.

I suspect that the answer is going to be something along the lines of lone humans have a tendency to panic- which may be what will happen to the Japanese Jaeger, the only solo model we know of so far. Imagine someone freaking out at the helm of a device like that, and trying to get back to the safety of the colony. It would be like Zim in Operation Impending Doom.

If so, then the paired pilots would function much like the old nuclear silo crews- it takes one pilot to fight the monster, and one pilot is there to take out the other if they lose it. We've been very fond of redundant safeties to prevent accidental weapons release for years. By that logic, the tri-pilot set-up in the Crimson Typhoon might even allow for a dedicated Commissar. That being said, if they actually play to that, or show a Jaeger on Jaeger fight or a pilot fight in the cockpit, it will suddenly turn Pacific Rim into a much darker film. With humanity in the balance, would you break and run with the only hope your city has? And if that ever happened- would you ever trust a lone person with your other cities last hope?

I am so, so excited to see this movie and more of this world.

Independence Day is terrible in a glorious, lovable way.



Pacific Rim can NOT fail. It can only BE failed.

It really blows when your military and watching those movies....and I tend to pick it aparrt......Seriously...how many freaking F/A 18's were there....BAttle Los Angelos...no issue till the end....I know Copperheads are not fired individualy...they're all set on the same freq and the entire battery fires them....keep with the movie and not RL....Eight Copperheads coming in...RL is the amount of targets = the amount of the copperheads. It has to be a high profile target though to warrant a copperhead strike.....like..."Hey...its a battleship in the lae!?!?!"

 Jihadin wrote:
It really blows when your military and watching those movies....and I tend to pick it aparrt......Seriously...how many freaking F/A 18's were there....BAttle Los Angelos...no issue till the end....I know Copperheads are not fired individualy...they're all set on the same freq and the entire battery fires them....keep with the movie and not RL....Eight Copperheads coming in...RL is the amount of targets = the amount of the copperheads. It has to be a high profile target though to warrant a copperhead strike.....like..."Hey...its a battleship in the lae!?!?!"

I know how you feel on that. I have a problem with military and weather movies. I tear them both apart.

Both Independence Day and War of the Worlds are both about an alien invasion that kicks our ass and is eventually defeated by a virus.

Yeah, a computer virus. I mean, how the hell does that even work, infecting an advanced alien computer system. So implausible.

I've been waiting all my life for Mobile Fighter G Gundam: The Movie... thank you Guillermo.

 Andrew1975 wrote:

Both Independence Day and War of the Worlds are both about an alien invasion that kicks our ass and is eventually defeated by a virus.

Yeah, a computer virus. I mean, how the hell does that even work, infecting an advanced alien computer system. So implausible.

Yeah, that ship they based it all off of was 50 years old. You'd think that they had updated their OS in that time frame.

 djones520 wrote:

 Andrew1975 wrote:

Both Independence Day and War of the Worlds are both about an alien invasion that kicks our ass and is eventually defeated by a virus.

Yeah, a computer virus. I mean, how the hell does that even work, infecting an advanced alien computer system. So implausible.

Yeah, that ship they based it all off of was 50 years old. You'd think that they had updated their OS in that time frame.

Try getting a MAC to talk to a PC, much less a super advanced alien computer. I also suppose the Aliens never heard of a firewall.

Two stoned writers were watching War of the Worlds and were like "Oh we could change that to a computer Virus". "So we have an alien invasion and a computer virus. What else do we put in?" "Garbage BS and a bunch of explosions, ask little johnny the 10 year old down the street what he wants to see happen in it."
10 minutes later
"and then the dog jumps from the explosion"
"oh and then they all get into the planes and go fight the bad guys, pew pew."

It was like when I was a kid, one day I saw Robotech and I just could not go back to watching G.I. Joe. I caught myself saying "How does everybody jump out of every vehicle before it explodes".

It's just hooky.

This is the closest we're going to get to live action evangelion.