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Kangodo wrote:

 Iranna wrote:
All of their HQs, All the Special Characters, Lictors, Trygon Primes and most other big beasties...

Iranna.

Broodlord, Hive Tyrant and Tervigon are the only ones I count.

All special characters are characters, and the Trygon Prime was FAQed to add (ch).

Edit: also ICs are characters (so Iranna was correct)

rigeld2 wrote:

Kangodo wrote:

 Iranna wrote:
All of their HQs, All the Special Characters, Lictors, Trygon Primes and most other big beasties...

Iranna.

Broodlord, Hive Tyrant and Tervigon are the only ones I count.

All special characters are characters, and the Trygon Prime was FAQed to add (ch).

Edit: also ICs are characters (so Iranna was correct)

Incorrect with 'most of the other big beasties' though, unless we've changed 'most' to mean 'half'.


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 Iranna wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:
Which brings us back to the fact that this is the one matchup where you should be spamming Hive Guard. Hive Guards niche in 6th edition is AV13. A brood of Hive Guard will comfortably destroy a Necron vehicle from outside of LoS.

I would disagree that they could "comfortably" destroy any AV13 vehicle.

A full brood of 3 will give 3 hits, which should deal 1 glance/pen.

Even with a pen and likely +1 modifier, the odds of you getting an Explodes! result aren't amazing.

I agree with the sentiment that Hive Guard are the best choice the Tyranids have in this match-up, but would argue that it's "the best of a bad situation".

Iranna.

... 3 hits from 6 BS 4 shots? I think your maths are off.

Yeah, I was exaggerating a bit with 'comfortably'.

 -Loki- wrote:




... 3 hits from 6 BS 4 shots? I think your maths are off.

Yeah, I was exaggerating a bit with 'comfortably'.

Ahhh, I always forget that those guys are BS4...

The end result is likely still the same however

Iranna.

raverrn wrote:
Remember that Mindshackle affects one random model in base contact with the lord. If you've got 5 models in b2b he's only got a 20% chance of shackling your big bug. Challenges do NOT affect this - even though you're in a duel, he can (and probably will) mindshakle a random Tyrant Guard.

Challenges absolutely effect this.

MSS -- They Go at the Beginning of Assault, same as challenges, so the Player that charges ( most likely the 'Nid player ) You choose the order in which these events happen. Swarmlord Charges a unit ( and hopefully smart enough to position so you don't come into B2B with the MSS Lord ). Choose order. MSS goes off -> issue Challenge. MSS has nothing to target, it is now wasted, if the lord chooses to accept challange, pummel into the ground.

You Can Also just Assualt the unit with no Characters since most Nid units don't have a character in them, minus Stealers. Also good positioning can just have termagants swarm the MSS user so that you only lose a massive 1 attack, and have a Trygon ( not prime ) sweep on the side, since it is not a character, you can't challenge him.

what are the rules for psychic
i cant find them i do not beleive

The psychic power rules are all in the rulebook and Tyranid codex for their specific powers.

Does anyone know the page for the codex i can not find it

I can't remember the page number, but IIRC it's the page before the full colour gallery section. It's titled 'Tyranid Psychic Powers' and has them broken down into Hive Tyrant, Broodlord and Tervigon (and I think Zoanthrope) powers.

There's nothing that says in the codex or rulebook what rulebook powers they can swap for, but the psychic power card deck had a card that says (and I'm pretty sure the BRB FAQ states as well) they can swap their powers for Biomancy, Telekinesis and Telepathy powers. You need to swap every power on the model, but you can mix up which tables you use (eg a Zoanthrope can keep its stock powers or replace them with 2 rolls for rulebook powers, either both from one table or each roll from different tables).