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With 20 hours left now, this has been going incredibly strong in the last day. We're now a little over $73K and a bunch of stuff has been added: Solifugid, Pedipalp, Caryatid Columns, Gorbel, Dire Corbies, Glass Wyrm and Jack-In-Irons!

The $200 levels now give at least 60 models (including 10 small, 8 large, and 3 huge) and depending on how the last 16 hours from this point go might still unlock 8 more, half of those being further large ones.

The final potential goal to be achieved will be a miniature of a small pillar with the sculpted Tome of Horrors itself sitting on it.

I'm shocked how high this has gone... still under 400 backers, but almost sitting at 77K

I do crave the purple worm diorama, though... I saw I believe a pathfinder branded one in a store a few weeks ago, but it was too pricey for me to pick up. A shame this one scales in price so it's $30 if you're at a low pledge level.

I'm surprised that this hasn't been mentioned here yet, but it appears the funds are entirely dried up for Devils and Demons, Tome of Horrors, and Tome of Horrors 2. I didn't see an official announcement yet, so I suppose it can be taken with a gran of salt, but plans are being discussed in the comment section of the various kickstarters for a backer/company called Mortal Arrow to buy the existing greens, produce the molds, and then offer a dollar for dollar discount (up to 50% off) for backers to buy future products. So if you backed for $100, you'd receive up to $100 off a $200 order.


https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/centerstageminis/tome-of-horrors-complete-28mm-heroic-scale-miniatu/comments

Prices are being outlined below.

"As promised here are the projected retail prices of some of the TOH1 and D&D pieces. Those listed below I feel confident have the correct costing, so I've little risk giving a preview. To be honest I have no idea of sizes of these pieces. Some costs I find surprising like the Gorbel, Stone Roper and Jaculi, which I think indicates they must be a fair bit bigger than estimated.
* Please remember the offer from Mortal Arrow LLC is a “dollar-for-dollar” match, which is equivalent to a 50% discount off these prices below.*
I look forward to receiving your comments.
Small Pieces from TOH1 range from $3.45 to $3.95:
$3.45 include: Al’ Miraj, Carbuncle, Demi-lich and Forlarren
Medium Size TOH1 minis range from $4.45 to $6.95.
$4.45 include: Iron Cobra, Inphidian (normal) and Huecuva
$4.95 include: Gargoyle (4-armed), Inphidian (Dancer), Inphidian (Cobra Back), Red Jester, Jack O’ Lantern and Daemon (Charon)
$5.45 include: Crypt Thing, Foo Dog, Inphidian (Night Adder Priest)
$6.45 include: Devas (Monadic and Movandic), Death Dog, Demodand (Tarry), Eye Killer and Inphidian (Rattler)
$6.95 include: Demodand (Slime) and Gorbel
Largers minis from TOH1 run from $7.45 to the most expensive piece for $39.95
$7.45 includes: Axe Beak
$8.95 includes: Jaculi and Stone Roper
$11.95 includes: Two-headed Troll
$13.95 includes: Basidrond, Kamadan and Nuckalavee
$15.95 includes: Flail Snail
$16.95: Includes: Purple Worm
$17.95 includes: Gorgimera
$18.95 includes: Shedu
$19.95 includes: Jack-in-Irons
Dragons and Drakes: Glass Dragon ($27.95), Fire Drake ($24.95), Salt Drake ($26.95) and Ice Drake ($32.95)
Froghemoth is the largest and most expensive at $39.95
Here are examples for Demons and Devils pricing from Mortal Arrow LLC. I chose the one’s for which I have firm pricing and are also listed on the CSM's webstore. I was happy to see that my pricing model brings them in at or below CSM’s current pricing:
$31.95 Pit Devil (metal)
$12.95 Glacial Devil (metal)
$25.95 Mammon (resin)
$23.95 Baphomet
$23.95 Rotting Lord
$34.95 Undead Prince and Lashing Prince

There was concern voiced that Mortal Arrow is actually just Center Stage trying to ditch their responsibilities from the campaigns, however Brett Zeleznik from Fractured DImensions posted the following, indicating they are separate people/companies.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/138453512/infernal-minions-of-the-outer-planes/posts/1046192

" I don't usually do this kind of thing and I am / was a little hesitant to even touch on another Kickstarter project / company, but some of the backers are starting to question my friends intentions so I think it is appropriate at this time to speak up and support someone I know as a good and honest man.

As some of you know there have been some pretty serious issues with the three Center Stage Miniatures kickstarters. While I do not know all of the specifics things look pretty bad right now. My understanding is that the current management will not be able to fulfill their obligations with concern to their backers. Enough said about that I think.

Enter, Mortal Arrow, to try and buy up the greens and offer what he considers to be a fair path forward. Now I am not going to offer my opinion on his plan, I am not a backer and it will be up to the backers to decide if his plan has merit or not. What I do want to talk about is the man himself. I have known Mike, yes his name is Mike and he is certainly not Matt, for about a year and a half now. I met him through this Kickstarter. I have to admit I was reluctant to meet someone who I met over the Internet.... thoughts of being kidnapped and having bad things happen to me where in the front and back of my mind. Regardless, I met him and we instantly hit it off.

I have had the pleasure of spending time with Mikes family and he has been gracious enough to have my family over to his house. He is a passionate old school gamer and miniature enthusiast. More importantly he also runs his own business, non-gaming related. I can't guarantee that Mike will be successful running a miniature company but I can tell you that he is an experienced businessman as well as a good man. Other than that I will let each and every backer make up their own mind. Hopefully, this update can at least lay to rest anyones misgivings about Mortal Arrow."

More info is available on the Reaper forums. Of particular note, Enos Kline (vulture) reported he wasnt paid for his work on the lurker above, froghemoth and other sculpts.

http://forum.reapermini.com/index.php?/topic/53433-csms-tome-of-horrors-complete-ii/page-22


So long story short, it looks like myself and any other backers of these campaigns are screwed out of our pledges. If you're willing to put more money in, you might get something back from Mortal Arrow. Personally, I'd be willing to throw in another $20 to ensure I'd at least get a froghemoth, However some of the other sculpts vary pretty wildly in their quality, so I dont know if they'd ever sell enough to warrant springing for the cost of the molds.

I think the only thing to add is that IF the deal goes ahead Matt/CSM will be allowed to buy minis from Mortal Arrow at 'cost' in order to fullfill backers KS pledges

now depending on what the financial situation of Matt/CSM is this may mean nothing, but it does leave him the option to do the right thing if he chooses to do so

Matt/CMS will also retain any casts he's already had made (and delivered to him) which he will be able to use to at least give backers something (again we've no handle on how much except that it's likely to be far less than they are due)

Let's consolidate conversation to this thread:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/30/577395.page#7347775