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 Homeskillet wrote:
As a GK player, ive put a cheap 100 pt purgation squad kitted with 4 incinerators in a LR and you camp an objective. GM makes the squad scoring. Sit stationary and fire 3 weapons, pop out at the end game and roast the objective clean. Winning.

This.Works for my codex boys as well,with sternguard and special ammo for when the obj is under threat.And 4 attacks on the charge if they are under pedro's bubble,for the assault phase,just to make sure they clear it.

I'm surprised there hasn't been more FW chaos stuff in general since the new 'e came out.

Anyway, getting OT. Sorry.

Pedro Kantor wrote:

 Homeskillet wrote:
As a GK player, ive put a cheap 100 pt purgation squad kitted with 4 incinerators in a LR and you camp an objective. GM makes the squad scoring. Sit stationary and fire 3 weapons, pop out at the end game and roast the objective clean. Winning.

This.Works for my codex boys as well,with sternguard and special ammo for when the obj is under threat.And 4 attacks on the charge if they are under pedro's bubble,for the assault phase,just to make sure they clear it.

The problem with sternguard in a LR is the lack of fire ports. So while you are inside, you just get to twiddle your thumbs. And you want to be shooting. If you just want a hop out and score units, toss some scouts in there. If you need to clear the objective, tank shock.

I think my next TFG 500 list is going to take a LR. HQ+CC scouts in the LR, 5 sniper scouts in a ruin somewhere. The question is wether to take a chaplain for the charge of the scouts, or a MotF to fortify the snipers ruins and the "Nah, I fix that" if someone does manage to get a solid hit on the LR.

Exalbaru wrote:
ive been wondering that, why can't CSM have more options? it prevents me from getting LR

Apparently the overwhelming majority of the new variants came in after the Horus Heresy, so the Chaos Space Marines can't use them.

 Nevelon wrote:
The problem with sternguard in a LR is the lack of fire ports. So while you are inside, you just get to twiddle your thumbs. And you want to be shooting. If you just want a hop out and score units, toss some scouts in there. If you need to clear the objective, tank shock.

I agree, a few scouts or scouts/CSM are a good investment for a land raider. You can also stick your captain/lord in there to cause some good counter assault as well.

Since the land raiders are so large, you can also use them as mobile cover to hide a squad of cultists/scouts/TACs behind as well.

 General_Chaos wrote:
Telling people they should play with broken forgeworld units is not a reasonable answer. The godhammer is good for delivering your terminator then backing out of melta range and taking down any mobility your opponent has that they can use to escape your terminators

There are PLENTY of clubs that allow FW simply for the fact of having more ability to work lists. The more variables the better, in some opinions...

I know I feel it allows more diversity of lists and gives people a more even playing ground in regards to the current flyer debacle of 6th Edition. Lists like old-Codex Tau and Eldar could actually bring a flyer or AA without bringing an ADL...which doesn't help versus flyer spam anyways.

 ruminator wrote:
Last time I used mine was sat on a skyshield landing pad for a 4+ invul save. Expensive for a single vehicle you may say, so I stuck a couple of preds on there as well. You could always use some HWS IG allies on there ...

2 TL lascannons are not mind-blowing but they are reliable. You can even shoot them at different targets if one enemy dies from the first one.

No you cannot, you are required to declare your shooting before the rolls are made.

A brief History of the Godhammer:

Back in the day, we had Land Raiders, aka "LR" or "Raider". Then along came the Leman Russ Battle Tank, which IG players also dubbed "LR". Not to long after that, the Crusader Land Raider varient was released, also know as an "LR". To prevent confusion, the 40k community began to call the original Land Raiders "Godhammers" versus the new Land Raiders "Crusaders", while dubbing them "GHLR" and "LRC", yet still calling them both "Raiders". In addition, we started the dub Russ's as "LRBT". All this was fine until GW release the Dark Eldar and their Raider, but that's another story. Somewhat later, GW assigned the name "Phobos-pattern" to the venerable Godhammer, sparking the whole "Godhammer" vs "Phobos" argument.

So, when people call them Godhammers, they are in fact using the oldest name for the original Land Raider pattarn. Also, this explains why some people grit their teeth everytime they see someone else call them "Phobos". And yes, GW is aware of the "Godhammer" naming convention, as they use to use the name too in older 2nd and 3rd edition publications.

SJ

When did the name Land Raider Hellfire get applied to the old RT model?

I mostly just use it as a firebase, stick 10 Blood Claws in it and try and keep away assaulting units.. You'd be surprised how scary it is

Also it can move 6 and fire both lascannons. Great assault deterrent. Also since it can be bought in dedicated it opens up a heavy slot for more predators, if you so wanted.

As DA, I throw my command squad with the dakka banner in a godhammer. That way it can chill near the tacticals for the banner, and blast anything it wants with the lascannons. The 6" move lets it be just maneuverable enough to take away banner privledges to a squad if they want to move and still fire 24".

And when something gets close, the hatch pops open and the command squad flames and assaults, protecting the tacticals.

I could switch to a crusader for the bolters, but honestly I have a lot of anti-infantry already with the banner. The twin-linked lascannons are just so good to pass up.