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Tactical_Genius wrote:You have psycannons... If you really need anti-horde, for cheaper than the DK you can get 9 DCA and 3 Crusaders, which will wreck anything in CC. Give the DCA one axe and one sword each, and let hilarity ensue.



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And Mustefa, the CCS buffs would be wasted, given the fact that all IG infantry are chimera mounted in this list.

Okay, fair enough.

Also, you might want to consider a 5 man purifier unit in a Rhino, as they can get 2 psycannons, and dish out the hurt to hordes.

That could work, in fact, I quite like that idea. And five purifiers with two psycannons is only 180pts so it fits in the existing list if I remove the dreadknight.

So, new list:

Primaris Psyker: 70pts

Guardsman Marbo : 65pts

Veterans, 3x Meltagun: 100pts
Chimera: 55pts

Veterans, 3x Plasma Gun: 115pts
Chimera: 55pts

Veterans, 3x Meltagun : 100pts
Chimera : 55pts

Vendetta: 130pts

Coteaz: 100pts

Terminator Squad, 5x Additional Terminator, 2x Psycannon, Psybolt Ammo, Demon Hammer, Master Crafted Demon Hammer: 475pts

Purifiers, 2x Psycannon: 140pts
Rhino: 40pts

1500pts

The DCA/Crusader blob I recommended is the same price and more survivable and harder hitting against a wider range of opponents than the purifiers + rhino. The rhino is also easy first blood. The blob does not need a transport. 6" move, 3.5" run turn one, 6" move, 3.5" run turn two - guaranteed turn 3 charge. Earlier if playing something that isn't a gunline.

You think? As I said before, I just see it getting hit by a template turn one and dying.

Invulnerable saves go a long way to protecting a 12 man unit from templates... They will survive a heck of a lot longer than 5 purifiers.

I would have thought the purifiers would have done more damage though because they are in a transport, and so they will get in range faster and, on top of that, the Rhino will protect them for a while, especially if they don't have much long range anti-tank.


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Ok, my list has undergone a major redesign after talking to one of my friends and I have decided to drop the terminators all together and go for PAGK's instead:

Primaris Psyker: 70pts

Guardsman Marbo : 65pts

Veterans, 3x Meltagun: 100pts
Chimera: 55pts

Veterans, 3x Plasma Gun: 115pts
Chimera: 55pts

Veterans, 3x Meltagun : 100pts
Chimera : 55pts

Vendetta: 130pts

Coteaz: 100pts

Strike Squad, 5x Extra Knight, Psybolt Ammo, Psycannon: 230pts

Strike Squad, 5x Extra Knight, Psybolt Ammo, Psycannon: 230pts

Purgation Squad, 4x Psycannon: 180pts

1485

I have 15pts spare. As for concerns, I think I would struggle against any fast combat army, or a flyer spam list. Suggestions?

Tactically speaking, I think the list has mobility issues, so something like noise marines w/ blastmasters would tear up the list and you wouldn't be able to threaten them.

Between the strike squads and the Chimera, you'll have a pretty easy time destroying anything that doesn't completely saturate you with targets.

Flyer-wise, the vendetta is kind of the apex predator, so I think it would only struggle against flyer spam that REALLY spams, like necrons.

Overall, I think it's good. I would do some play testing against a variety of lists.

I would love to test it, however I can't do more than math-hammer until I actually buy the models.

Also, by mobility issues, what do you mean? I would have thought, with all the chimeras, this list would be quite mobile.

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I would love to test it, however I can't do more than math-hammer until I actually buy the models.

Also, by mobility issues, what do you mean? I would have thought, with all the chimeras, this list would be quite mobile.

Well, things that like to hang out back field, ie LF, Lootas, Noise marines, etc. can take a few turns to reach, meaning that's three turns of firepower your units, particularly transports have to survive to reach them. Something like interceptors can threaten them from turn 1. I guess what I'm saying is that you'll have a hard time closing with long ranged units to bring your full firepower to bear, which is important as you don't have many backfield campers yourself that can trade shots.

Like I said, I don't know how much it will actually hinder you, so it's good to play a few games, when you get the models (Magnetizing you weapons is your friend).

Ah right, fair enough. I'm not looking for an unbeatable tournament list, only a competitive, but fun list to play with, so I think I will be ok.

Thanks for all the help guys, if you have anymore suggestions, then feel free to post them.

Next thing to do is consider what I would add to make it up to 2000pts. I was thinking something like this:

Vindicare Assassin: 145pts

Storm Raven, Typhoon Missile Launcher, Hurricane Bolters, Psybolt Ammo: 280pts

This leaves me with 90pts spare. What do you think?

Anyone? Suggestions for 2k?

Primaris Psyker: 70pts

Guardsman Marbo : 65pts

Veterans, 3x Meltagun: 100pts
Chimera: 55pts

Veterans, 3x Plasma Gun: 115pts
Chimera: 55pts

Veterans, 3x Meltagun : 100pts
Chimera : 55pts

Vendetta: 130pts

Coteaz: 100pts

Vindicare Assassin: 145pts

Strike Squad, 5x Extra Knight, Psybolt Ammo, Psycannon: 230pts

Strike Squad, 5x Extra Knight, Psybolt Ammo, Psycannon: 230pts

Storm Raven, Typhoon Missile Launcher, Hurricane Bolters, Psybolt Ammo: 280pts

Purgation Squad, 4x Psycannon: 180pts

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