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 juraigamer wrote:
Abby makes chosen troops, grants auto preferred enemy space marine bubble, its deadly in CC, can't auto die to str 10 like a DP can, ect ect.

Abby tends to need a landraider, but a flying daemon prince can be shot down just not as easily as it would be to kill a land raider with shooting.

I'd actually argue that it's way easier to shoot down a flying Daemon Prince at range than it is to kill a Land Raider at range.

I ought to give it a try. With two heldrakes on the table, it's not like you risk losing any way

Why not just run 3 heldrakes? At that point doesn't it make your HQ choice irrelevant?

3 Is overkill. 2 heldrakes is all I need

Is chosen wing viable or ween I just better off with plague marines and typhus

Abbadon actually has a higher kill rate than any of the Primarchs in the 30k Betrayal book from Forge World plus he is significantly cheaper points wise. I have had Abbadon kill five mega armored Nobs on the charge before they could swing back. He is really quite amazing with his two specialist melee weapons. Even if you roll a 1 for his daemon sword Drachyen he has 7 attacks on the charge and is re-rolling hits versus any Space Marine plus he has 50 percent odds to ignore the automatic wound due to his 4++ save. You can deep strike him with a squad of Oblits if you don't want to invest the points in a land raider, which is a great delivery system. He can single handedly win games... He is really that good. To me Abbadon is one of the best things in the CSM codex. Making Chosen a troop choices unlocks one of the better power armor units in the codex.