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 Monster Rain wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
Ahhh, I see she's already been on one.

So why is this person campaigning to put a female figure on money in the first place? Its not like women have been excluded prior.

It doesn't matter why anyone might campaign for or against to put a man, a woman or a monkey on a currency note. The point is that you can't do it by issuing threats of violence against the other side.

No, the real point is we have come very close to blaming the victim just now.

I think it is despicable, but the woman in question shouldn't have put herself out there in a format where she could be abused.

Is that closer?

 Mr. Burning wrote:



I think it is despicable, but the woman in question shouldn't have put herself out there in a format where she could be abused.

Is that closer?

CULPABIT VICTIMA!

The concept was that when the current £5 note is retired, aside from HRM, there would be zero women on any of the British notes.

Zero, zip, null, Nada.

And the argument is, that's a bit rubbish. So there was a campaign to keep at least 1 women on there, which seems fair enough to me.

Pissst! Twitter two words for you "Yellow triangles" works a treat

http://www.themediablog.co.uk/the-media-blog/2013/07/oliver-eric-rawlings.html

The Internet offers anonymity and a platform on which to say anything unchecked. It means people says things they just wouldn't in real life for fear of being punched, look at the way some users behave on Dakka, within the rules but aggressive/unpleasant beyond what is socially acceptable. The Internet can turn ordinary people into donkey-caves, and donkey-caves into monsters.

There's a lot of misogyny on the Internet, it's everywhere. So is racism, and homophobia just look at the comments on many YouTube videos. Look at historical videos about nazis on YouTube and try reading those comments! There's a reason many of these videos have the comments turned off.

The aggression against women online occasionally gets highlighted as it has now but I'm sure it's been discussed before and little has changed. I think it's come up with online gaming, where women are abused by make players. It's like they want to remain sad single people because they don't have a clue what to do when a woman comes along with a shared interest.

The rape threats levelled against that lady pretty much prove why its so important to make sure recognising the achievements of women is so important. It's just symbolism, but in the fight against the hateful little weirdos that threaten rape over twitter, it's all part of a really important fight.

But more than anything, talking about the faces on national currency always makes me envious of the UK, USA, and other countries that have impressive lists of famous people to put on their money. You look on Australian money, and while I'm not belittling the people on our currency, not even Australians know who the feth they were. Basically the only names that you'd think most people would know are Banjo Patterson and Nellie Melba, and that's only because they have pretty memorable names (I mean, Nellie Melba was an opera singer in the inter-war era - who gives a gak, really?) Ask people here who's on the $10 note, and they'll say they don't know. You show them the picture on the note and they'll say they don't know who that is. You read them the name next to it, Mary Gilmore, and they still won't know who that is. And I don't either, and it's only from just looking it up that I've just learned she was a poet and a journalist who wrote for some trade union publications.

Not exactly reaching Jane Austen levels of fame and achievement there...

..... you have/use money in Australia ?

It's ok - we can always deport some more interesting people down to you again if you need someone to feature on your money

One of the biggest advantages of having a Monarchy is that you'll have people to put on your money!

 SilverMK2 wrote:
It's ok - we can always deport some more interesting people down to you again if you need someone to feature on your money

Or we could finally get around to putting Warnie on our money. Preferably this picture;

 sebster wrote:

 SilverMK2 wrote:
It's ok - we can always deport some more interesting people down to you again if you need someone to feature on your money

Or we could finally get around to putting Warnie on our money. Preferably this picture;

I think a pic of pre Hurley Warnie would be better. Maybe one of him patting his belly after getting man of the series/match? After England fans chanted 'you fat fellow!'

Stirring stuff.

 sebster wrote:

 SilverMK2 wrote:
It's ok - we can always deport some more interesting people down to you again if you need someone to feature on your money

Or we could finally get around to putting Warnie on our money. Preferably this picture;

Nice, is he ill?

No famous Australian women, you great big flaming Galah!



There's three right there. Try harder Austrailia, its not the 1970's! though you wouldn't know if you went there.

 reds8n wrote:

There's also Elizabeth Fry on the current fiver as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_England_note_issues#The_20th_century

.. I guess given the % of the population they make up it might not be unreasonable to have a few more representatives shown ?

I'd be quite happy to see Bouddica ( or representation of), Mary Wollstonecraft -- or maybe her daughter --, Octavia Hill seems a glaring omission too in a fair few ways.

Wollstonecraft would be a great addition.

They should have put Maggie Thatcher on the Fiver. Then we could all watch as Scotland fights a purely internal battle as to whether to have £5 or throw it away.

I think there would be 10,000-50,000 head explosion deaths per year but it would be worth it - for scientific reasons obviously.

Except, we print our own fivers. Its currently got Rabbie Burns on it, I believe

 notprop wrote:
No famous Australian women, you great big flaming Galah!

We have lots of women on our money. Its just that the people who end up on money tend not to be the kind of people Australians give a gak about. Instead you get cultural icons like Nellie Melba and some lady that wrote for trade union magazines.

In the US and UK you seem to get some kind of crossover between 'actually genuinely pretty damn famous' and 'has enough cultural respect among the nattering classes to end up on a banknote'. As a result you can look at the money and see Charles Darwin or Lincoln and you know who it is and what they did.

 sebster wrote:

 notprop wrote:
No famous Australian women, you great big flaming Galah!

We have lots of women on our money. Its just that the people who end up on money tend not to be the kind of people Australians give a gak about. Instead you get cultural icons like Nellie Melba and some lady that wrote for trade union magazines.

In the US and UK you seem to get some kind of crossover between 'actually genuinely pretty damn famous' and 'has enough cultural respect among the nattering classes to end up on a banknote'. As a result you can look at the money and see Charles Darwin or Lincoln and you know who it is and what they did.

I think you should put various dangerous wildlife on your banknotes.

I'd collect them!

Yeah, that would be much more interesting

I have to admit i dont think ive ever actually looked at a banl note closely enough to notice who was on it... more interested in checking it is the right value etc

Ohh if we don't have Boudicca (or even if we do), I nominate Elizabeth Hurley for the 10 pound note.

Regardless of her other accolades, she is truly a national treasure. /swoon

Definitely brings serious assets to the table for discussion.

Well, this is just getting silly now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-23523539

Bomb threats on Twitter made against three female journalists
Breaking news
Police are investigating bomb threats made on social networking site Twitter against several female journalists.

Guardian columnist Hadley Freeman, Independent columnist Grace Dent and Time magazine's Catherine Mayer all said they had been threatened.

It follows rape threats made on Twitter against MP Stella Creasy and feminist campaigner Caroline Criado-Perez........

 whembly wrote:

 azazel the cat wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:How is Jane Austen "terrible"?

I'm sure there could be better choices but I'd hardly consider it a bad choice.

Have you ever read her works? She is, IMO, the single most over-rated author in all of literature, and her crowning achievement is penning a novel that would be the equivalent to the Sex and the City movie.

Me and Azazel agrees on something!

I go away from the forums for two weeks, get married, get my permanent residence status, start a new job, and I miss this? Talk about timing

I got most of the way through this thread confusing Jane Austen with Jane Goodall.

Austen is a better choice than Thatcher. Minnie the Minx is a better choice than Thatcher.

 Frazzled wrote:
Ohh if we don't have Boudicca (or even if we do), I nominate Elizabeth Hurley for the 10 pound note.

I'll go you halves, you can put Warnie and Hurley on the same note...

 gunslingerpro wrote:

 sebster wrote:

 notprop wrote:
No famous Australian women, you great big flaming Galah!

We have lots of women on our money. Its just that the people who end up on money tend not to be the kind of people Australians give a gak about. Instead you get cultural icons like Nellie Melba and some lady that wrote for trade union magazines.

In the US and UK you seem to get some kind of crossover between 'actually genuinely pretty damn famous' and 'has enough cultural respect among the nattering classes to end up on a banknote'. As a result you can look at the money and see Charles Darwin or Lincoln and you know who it is and what they did.

I think you should put various dangerous wildlife on your banknotes.

I'd collect them!

That's actually not a bad idea, if I ever found my own country I will actually do this.

I don't know if you are allowed to put live people on banknotes, but if you can, Australia has a major living female icon who is recognised all over the English speaking world.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
I don't know if you are allowed to put live people on banknotes, but if you can, Australia has a major living female icon who is recognised all over the English speaking world.

I didn't know Elton John was Australian.