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2013/08/10 19:50:11
Subject: Re:Another Emperor?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Houston, Texas
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 ThePrimordial wrote:I'm not about to start up another thread but here are my finished stats
The Emperor of Mankind 1250 points
WS BS S T W I A LD SV
8 6 7 7 7 6 6 10 2+/3++ Invul
Unit type: Infantry
Unit Compositon: 1 Emperor
Special Rules: Terror, Very Bulky, 4+ IWND, Eternal Warrior, Psychic Mastery 6, Fearless
Psychic Powers
The Fires of the Endless Void: Warp Charge cost 3 S: D, AP:1, Hellstorm Template
The Light of Mankind: Warp Charge cost 3, 48 inch range, 6D6, S:8, AP:3 shots
Adamantium Arm (Iron Arm should cost him more due to his high stats) Warp Charge cost 2, Increases S & T by D3 for one turn.
Blessing of the Emperor: Warp Charge cost 2, 2 units reroll failed saves, & have their S & T increased by 1 for one turn
Special Rules
God of Mankind: The Emperor of Mankind can bestow a chosen specific Legiones Astartes special rule unto a Tactical squad. This is done before the game starts and may be done up to 3 times. The Emperor may use any of his powers other than adamantium arm more than once per turn.
Psychic God: The Emperor possesses a 3+ DTW, and on a 3+ ignores Perils of the Warp. Once per game the Emperor may up his Mastery Level to 8 for one turn.
I Shall not fall: Against attacks which would instantly kill the Emperor (like the new Bo Schitt S: D table) the Emperor instead takes D3 wounds
Bindings of Mankind: If the Emperor falls all units in your army permanently lose D3 leadership, any rule such as fearless, & fail any morale tests taken for the next turn.
Master of the Astartes: 2 units of your choice do not scatter when Deep Striked.
Master of the Custodes: The Emperor makes Custodes a troop choice.
Wargear
Armor of the Divine Aquilla: This armor bestows the Emperor a 2+ armor save, a 3++ Invul save, & is immune to effects like the Vindicares shield breaker.
Sword of Mankind: This is a melee weapon with the following profile: S+1, AP:2, Murderous Strike, always strikes first
The Aquilla's Grasp: This is a melee weapon with the following profile: S:as user, AP:2, successful wounds with this weapon permanently decrease the target's S & T by one.
Notes
He has 7 wounds because unarmored he should be about as tough as Mortarion.
(Mortarion inherited the Emprah's toughness like Magnus inherited his psychic power, Angron his strength. etc)
He simply has the powers I described not any BRB powers
I'd like to think that this has been improved, I would adore getting some comment on this.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/08/13 18:25:15
Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag." |
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2013/08/11 18:56:14
Subject: Another Emperor?
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Just wondering if you guys know the emperor was almost killed by an ork?
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2013/08/11 19:00:46
Subject: Another Emperor?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Houston, Texas
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An Ork warboss empowered by a waagh the size of a quadrant of the milky way.
Emps took no lasting wounds and took that orks head.
Emps also effortlessly handed Gharkul Blackfang (a massive black ork the size of a soul grinder) his a*s on a silver platter.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2013/08/11 19:31:45
Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag." |
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2013/08/11 19:30:45
Subject: Another Emperor?
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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ThePrimordial wrote:
An Ork warboss empowered by a waagh the size of the eastern sector of the milky way.
Emps took no lasting wounds and took that orks head.
Emps also effortlessly handed Gharkul Blackfang (a massive black ork the size of a soul grinder) his a*s on a silver platter.
But it was still an Ork.
Also, you keep saying the Emperor "Effortlessly" did something. Almost all (but few) stories with the emperor in battle has him at minimum Breathing hard.
Most of the stuff you keep mentioning, you're twisting the fluff to what you want it to be.
At least 4 other people not counting me have turned your Ideas down, yet you refuse to listen.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/08/11 19:34:58
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2013/08/11 19:33:35
Subject: Another Emperor?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Houston, Texas
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 kinratha wrote: ThePrimordial wrote:
An Ork warboss empowered by a waagh the size of the eastern sector of the milky way.
Emps took no lasting wounds and took that orks head.
Emps also effortlessly handed Gharkul Blackfang (a massive black ork the size of a soul grinder) his a*s on a silver platter.
But it was still an Ork.
It was an ork, yeah.
But why are we treating that like its insulting. It was a massively empowered ork.
His stats aren't absurd for someone who can still lose to a gigantic ork in CC. Automatically Appended Next Post: kinratha wrote: ThePrimordial wrote:
An Ork warboss empowered by a waagh the size of the eastern sector of the milky way.
Emps took no lasting wounds and took that orks head.
Emps also effortlessly handed Gharkul Blackfang (a massive black ork the size of a soul grinder) his a*s on a silver platter.
But it was still an Ork.
Also, you keep saying the Emperor "Effortlessly" did something. Almost all (but few) stories with the emperor in battle has him at minimum Breathing hard.
Most of the stuff you keep mentioning, you're twisting the fluff to what you want it to be.
At least 4 other people not counting me have turned your Ideas down, yet you refuse to listen.
I used effortlessly for emphasis. His stats still means he can get obliterated by a massive ork in CC.
You could tell me what you think of the current stats by giving me feedback on individual parts like statline, powers, leadership style rules separately.
i'd be grateful if you did.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/08/11 20:15:17
Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag." |
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2013/08/12 19:34:06
Subject: Re:Another Emperor?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Houston, Texas
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I still want feedback on my rules.
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Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag." |
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2013/08/12 22:35:00
Subject: Another Emperor?
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Sneaky Lictor
Wherever they tell me
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The psychic powers you have now I find much more balanced, with the exception that I think you should make The Light of Mankind only a 48" range (it's really hard to imagine something man sized attacking something that far away.) Also, his blessing should really only affect a single unit vs two.
I still have a really hard time accepting his wounds being 7, but I haven't seen Mortarian's rules so I can't compare them. Considering the change you made in the armor to what we had earlier, the increase in wounds is not unreasonable so I won't fight you on it.
Lastly, I would include a rule that removes the limit on casting each power only once (the exception being Adamantium Arm.)
Just a little bit of feedback. I know you're going for a much different power level than others on this thread.
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Tyranids 10000 points
Orks 3500 points
Raven Guard 3000 points
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2013/08/13 03:29:38
Subject: Another Emperor?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Houston, Texas
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 rabid1903 wrote:The psychic powers you have now I find much more balanced, with the exception that I think you should make The Light of Mankind only a 48" range (it's really hard to imagine something man sized attacking something that far away.) Also, his blessing should really only affect a single unit vs two.
I still have a really hard time accepting his wounds being 7, but I haven't seen Mortarian's rules so I can't compare them. Considering the change you made in the armor to what we had earlier, the increase in wounds is not unreasonable so I won't fight you on it.
Lastly, I would include a rule that removes the limit on casting each power only once (the exception being Adamantium Arm.)
Just a little bit of feedback. I know you're going for a much different power level than others on this thread.
Mortarion has 7 wounds, 7 toughness, a 2up armor, 4up invul, and he can reroll his 4up It will not die
I'm adding that when I get the chance.
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Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag." |
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2013/08/13 13:31:21
Subject: Another Emperor?
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Sneaky Lictor
Wherever they tell me
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Holy cow... seriously?
I won't lie, horus heresy sounds like less and less fun to play to me the more I find out about the primarch's rules. Though that could be because I'm a Tyranid player at heart part of me just sees the emperor as shiny biomass haha.
A good idea for the emp's rules may be to just take the highest stat from every primarch. After that, just give him an appropriate point value.
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Tyranids 10000 points
Orks 3500 points
Raven Guard 3000 points
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2013/08/13 18:22:51
Subject: Another Emperor?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Houston, Texas
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rabid1903 wrote:Holy cow... seriously?
I won't lie, horus heresy sounds like less and less fun to play to me the more I find out about the primarch's rules. Though that could be because I'm a Tyranid player at heart part of me just sees the emperor as shiny biomass haha.
A good idea for the emp's rules may be to just take the highest stat from every primarch. After that, just give him an appropriate point value.
He can also redeploy at any time with his "shadow of the reaper rule" so he cant get bogged down.
Mortarion is pretty much meant to be unkillable.
Edit: Made the changes to the rules you mentioned. First post of this page.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/08/13 18:27:16
Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag." |
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