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shogun wrote:
You can fly over a model but still cannot put the flyers base unto another model (friendly or enemy). Their no rules for when you get "forced" to move and thats the whole issue.

Incorrect, as pointed out. Skimmers are allowed to continue moving, if specifically forced to stop over somewhere they cannot be, and flyers do the same. As pointed out.

So what would happen if I dropped 6 sets of gaunts w/ pods around his eldar titan then the mawloc went in? It would take the d6 hits instead of being destroyed? Where would you move the titan to? Would it get its saves vs the hits?

The new subterranean swarm comes to mind, Mawlocs everywhere.

This has been a puzzle for me. though I not used a titan. I have had an Ork Battlewagon surrounded by figures 1+ inches away and Mawloc comes up. Mawloc didn't scatter because of a Lictor.

First the way we played it. The battlewagon was destroyed and removed from the game. I protested because my battlewagon should be able to tank shock and move far enough to be in btb contact with Mawloc. For the sake of time we just removed the battlewagon.

After reading the rules for Tank Shock, there is nothing saying it wouldn't just plow straight forward tank shocking the unit(s) in front.

My question is can a vehicle tank shock his way out from under Mawloc's base? Or is it just removed?

If a vehicle can or can not tank shock on an opponents turns. Can you please give me the quote and page number from the Rule Book or FAQ?

I sense Black Magic, of the necromantic variety! Quick, lock this thread and start a new one!

When do you declare a tank shock?
That should be enough to prove that you did the correct thing by destroying the Battlewagon.

 Sleg wrote:
This has been a puzzle for me. though I not used a titan. I have had an Ork Battlewagon surrounded by figures 1+ inches away and Mawloc comes up. Mawloc didn't scatter because of a Lictor.

First the way we played it. The battlewagon was destroyed and removed from the game. I protested because my battlewagon should be able to tank shock and move far enough to be in btb contact with Mawloc. For the sake of time we just removed the battlewagon.

After reading the rules for Tank Shock, there is nothing saying it wouldn't just plow straight forward tank shocking the unit(s) in front.

My question is can a vehicle tank shock his way out from under Mawloc's base? Or is it just removed?

If a vehicle can or can not tank shock on an opponents turns. Can you please give me the quote and page number from the Rule Book or FAQ?

It is removed, you can't Tank Shock in your opponent's turn.

In the original diagram, couldn't the marine player save his Dreadnought by moving the tanks first? It looks as though once they're shifted to be 1" away from the Mawloc's base there would be room for the Dreadnought to sneak between them (backwards in the direction away from the Spore).

Altruizine wrote:
In the original diagram, couldn't the marine player save his Dreadnought by moving the tanks first? It looks as though once they're shifted to be 1" away from the Mawloc's base there would be room for the Dreadnought to sneak between them (backwards in the direction away from the Spore).

How would the tanks move? It's the Nid player's turn and, correct me if I am wrong, but the attack only affects units hit by the template and not every model withing 1 inch.

 Tyran wrote:


It is removed, you can't Tank Shock in your opponent's turn.

OK, where does it say you can't?

Tank shock says before a tank moves it can declare Tank Shock. Mawloc is deep striking and says to move the model in BtB. Since the tank moves it should be able to Tank shock, correct?


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 Kwosge wrote:


How would the tanks move? It's the Nid player's turn and, correct me if I am wrong, but the attack only affects units hit by the template and not every model withing 1 inch.

The Template attack effects those under the template. Then Mawloc deep strikes, if the Dreadnaught can find a place an 1" or more away of all the other models and in BtB of Mawloc it will survive, if it is under Mawloc's base it is removed.

Flyers are considered impassible terrain if Mawloc's template attack doesn't effect them and when he arrives he needs to be an inch or more away otherwise Mawloc mishaps according to Deep Striking rules.

 Sleg wrote:

 Tyran wrote:


It is removed, you can't Tank Shock in your opponent's turn.

OK, where does it say you can't?

Tank shock says before a tank moves it can declare Tank Shock. Mawloc is deep striking and says to move the model in BtB. Since the tank moves it should be able to Tank shock, correct?

You must declare a Tank Shock instead of moving normally. The Mawloc forced move is not a normal move (it's not restricted by distance, it's not during your turn)

 Kwosge wrote:
How would the tanks move? It's the Nid player's turn and, correct me if I am wrong, but the attack only affects units hit by the template and not every model withing 1 inch.

The Template attack effects those under the template. Then Mawloc deep strikes, if the Dreadnaught can find a place an 1" or more away of all the other models and in BtB of Mawloc it will survive, if it is under Mawloc's base it is removed.

Flyers are considered impassible terrain if Mawloc's template attack doesn't effect them and when he arrives he needs to be an inch or more away otherwise Mawloc mishaps according to Deep Striking rules.

The FAQ clarifies what happens to Flyers.

Tyranid FAQ page 4 wrote:Q: Are Zooming Flyers or Swooping Flying Monstrous Creatures affected by Mawloc’s Terror From the Deep special rule? (p51)
A: No. However, if the Mawloc cannot be placed because a Zooming Flyer or a Swooping Flying Monstrous Creature is in the way, move the obstructing model by the shortest distance so that they are 1" away from the Mawloc when it is placed.