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Jervis Johnson






 Redbeard wrote:

Why does one FW thing cost more than another? Because that's what they wrote down in their drunken stupor. Questioning this stuff will only drive you insane.

Yeah you're probably right. I've heard a lot of stories from former GW employees who frequented the studio about the 'games design process'. The funniest thing is how seriously gamers worldwide then take those rules.
   
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Douglas Bader






 Redbeard wrote:
Why does one GW thing cost more than another? Because that's what they wrote down in their drunken stupor. Questioning this stuff will only drive you insane.


Fixed that for you. This isn't a problem that's unique to FW, every part of GW is guilty of the same "throw darts at some point costs on the wall and never playtest it" approach to coming up with rules.

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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. 
   
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On moon miranda.

 Redbeard wrote:
 Therion wrote:

There's one thing about superheavy flyers that I don't get. How come does the Vampire have 12 hull points for 730 points (and comes with strength D and holo-fields) but the AX-10 only gets 6 hull points for 660 points? They have similar weaponry, and the titan holo-field alone makes up for the difference in armour value, so basically the Vampire just has double the wounds for free. Tau got shafted on that one for sure.


Really? It's because they have no idea what they're doing, and making up point costs as they go along.

Look at the Daemon Lords. Their point costs are gimmicky references to the sacred numbers of the chaos gods, not any indication of how valuable they are. These point costs have not changed over the last 6+ years, through 3 codex changes (including re-categorization from Chaos Marine to Chaos Daemons) and any number of rule changes. Their stats have changed in every release, the basic abilities of Gargantuan creatures have changed three times (from FW-only, to apoc, to apoc2013) and yet their point cost remains a constant.

Why does one FW thing cost more than another? Because that's what they wrote down in their drunken stupor. Questioning this stuff will only drive you insane.
GW has done much the same with many units however, and the new Lord of Skulls certainly wasn't priced where it's at because it's worth nearly 900pts...

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Peoria, IL

Would you guys make any adjustments to the Super Heavy Fliers like the Thunderhawk?


@Fishboy - I can say this, there is not much FW that I don't own and I love the Thunderhawk model. It is also a kit that has been around for a very long time. While having decent rules is not a requirement for me to own a model. ( Reference most of my Forgeworld collection, aquila lander, crassus armoured assault transport, gorgon etc ) I still do not own a Thunderhawk. The rules have just been consisently bad for that kit and it always deserved better. A storm raven has better all around armour!!

Side note ... having gotten IA2:2nd edition, and being sort of grumbling that I already had IA2: 1st edition.... it dawned on me that IA2: 1st edition was release 10 years ago! .. and in that time it had at least two supporting pdf documents. 10 years between book replacement for the FW Space Marine book .. not to shabby in that context.

   
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 Medium of Death wrote:
Are the various Superheavy CCW's strength D? Stompa, Lord of Skulls etc.


Yes. I believe the Stompa, Khorne Wheelchair, and the Necron God all have St D CCW.

I do what the voices in my wifes head say...
 
   
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if I am not mistaken multiple[most of the pics you have posted] of the items added as "lords of war" by FW cost more than the total points value of the entire army.

So not really an issue.
   
 
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