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 Lord Spartacus wrote:

 Zweischneid wrote:
Hell, Games Workshop already did explicitly kill off an entire Legion, disbanded and gone forever - The World Eaters - and yet people still cling to their World Eater armies in 40K against all reason and published fluff.

Didn't they just scatter into small warbands after Kharn went on a rampage?

Yes, the World Eaters were, ever since, broken as a Legion, fragmented into countless, marauding warbands that fight for other Chaos Lords or Greater Daemon, etc.., just to splill blood . Renegade Traitors like Zhufor (an ex Storm-Lord) are probably the next-best thing to a "proper" World Eaters army in 40K (and even there, the majority of Zhufor's Berzerkers are ex- Word Bearers, not ex-World Eaters).

One primarch was definitely executed/killed. It's referenced plenty of times that the when the wolves went to trash Prospero, it was not the first time that leman russ has been used to reel in a wayward brother. It's unclear whether this could be refering to the night of the wolf, were the Wolves and World eaters clashed, but it's stipulated that this happened after the sacking of Prospero but never confirmed.

It's mentioned to how when Magnus broke the edict of Nikaea, it was not the first time a brother had crossed the line. So whatever one of the Primarchs did, it must of been extremely bad to make the Emperor warrant their destruction.

While that explains what happened to one of them, the other one? Not a single clue haha

 tomball0706 wrote:
One primarch was definitely executed/killed. It's referenced plenty of times that the when the wolves went to trash Prospero, it was not the first time that leman russ has been used to reel in a wayward brother. It's unclear whether this could be refering to the night of the wolf, were the Wolves and World eaters clashed, but it's stipulated that this happened after the sacking of Prospero but never confirmed.

It's mentioned to how when Magnus broke the edict of Nikaea, it was not the first time a brother had crossed the line. So whatever one of the Primarchs did, it must of been extremely bad to make the Emperor warrant their destruction.

While that explains what happened to one of them, the other one? Not a single clue haha

A dead Primarch doesn't automatically mean the Legion is dead (and vice versa, cue Angron "surviving" but his Legion not).

That said.

a) It was mentioned in Prospero Burns by a mortal servant of the Thousand Sons... hardly an unbiased (or all-knowing) source.
b) Black Library is not canon
c.) Dan Abnett is less canon and more "I'll do things my way" than most of Black Library

 Zweischneid wrote:

 tomball0706 wrote:
One primarch was definitely executed/killed. It's referenced plenty of times that the when the wolves went to trash Prospero, it was not the first time that leman russ has been used to reel in a wayward brother. It's unclear whether this could be refering to the night of the wolf, were the Wolves and World eaters clashed, but it's stipulated that this happened after the sacking of Prospero but never confirmed.

It's mentioned to how when Magnus broke the edict of Nikaea, it was not the first time a brother had crossed the line. So whatever one of the Primarchs did, it must of been extremely bad to make the Emperor warrant their destruction.

While that explains what happened to one of them, the other one? Not a single clue haha

A dead Primarch doesn't automatically mean the Legion is dead (and vice versa, cue Angron "surviving" but his Legion not).

That said.

a) It was mentioned in Prospero Burns by a mortal servant of the Thousand Sons... hardly an unbiased (or all-knowing) source.
b) Black Library is not canon
c.) Dan Abnett is less canon and more "I'll do things my way" than most of Black Library

Oh no, I didn't mean the legion was destroyed along side their primarch, I was getting at how one of the missing primarchs was potentionally killed. What happened to their legion after the primarch was gone I have no idea, while some people say that the Ultramarine's absorbed them, some people say that they didn't. Three cheers for contradicting fluff! thank you very much black library

I am using the idea that one of the missing Primarchs found/created and used AI soldiers/army. Then the AI turned on the legion and killed most of them including the Primarch. Then the Space Wolves and perhaps other legions had to go and wipe them out.

The other missing Primarch had been found at this point but was not leading his legion. He got pissed and corrupted the AI of lost legion 1 to cause chaos. I also like the idea of the 11th legion fell to Malal, the god of malice. This god fights everyone from what I have heard, so perhaps they could have fallen to chaos without turning into monsters/daemons because it is a minor God that opposes all the major gods.

Now either legion could have suffered from mutation, legion 1 could have needed to replace their losses so the Primarch used AI soldiers instead. Or Malal could have caused mutation in the other legion through chaos.

The Emperor had to cover up the AI shenanigans from the Imperium and Mars, as well as cover up the existence of Malal as it would lead to the discovery of chaos.

 Lord Spartacus wrote:

 Zweischneid wrote:
Hell, Games Workshop already did explicitly kill off an entire Legion, disbanded and gone forever - The World Eaters - and yet people still cling to their World Eater armies in 40K against all reason and published fluff.

Didn't they just scatter into small warbands after Kharn went on a rampage?

Correct. The WE are very much still here, just not united.

"Fact 1" is merely conjecture.

Sanguinius did not want to reveal his Legions flaw for fear of suffering his brothers' fate. Russ stated he has been sent against a brother before. Guilliman seems to also have been involved in that action.

So at least one Primarch and his Legion got sanctioned. Emperor feeling sorrow? Doubt it, this is a guy totes okay with a pit of human misery and suffering right outside his palace gates. Ascribing any humanity to this ageless monster is naive.

 Zweischneid wrote:

 Warpig1815 wrote:
@Sir Sam @ Zweischneid - Cheers for the info on that. So we can definitely rule out the Primarchs having been simply lost in the warp/galaxy.

Yes.

Remember that the original intention was to have 2 "blank" Legions that would allow people to insert their own "home-made" Legions (Loyalist or Chaos), similar to "home-made" Chapters / CSM Warbands, but on a larger scale.

Whatever the "explanation" is (though I doubt it will ever come to light), it would be such that they could both be "re-inserted" into Warhammer 40K similar to how an ambitious Hobbyist might re-introduce "his" II.

I have no doubt whatsoever that GW/BL will eventually reveal all, or mostly all, is a series of books about the Lost Legions.