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 Extreaminatus wrote:
 UselesswizarD wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
CSM's fit the role more or less. Chaos society is organized in a similar manner to a more chaotic version of small feudal lords and barons in Medieval Europe. Each and every CSM is a Knight- owning his own chunk of the system while all pledging service to their respective king/baron/etc. He'll also violently put down any dissenters in his command or associated with him.


Everyone seems to point to CSM as the real powers in the chaos loyal areas of the galaxy, but it seems to me that the BL fluff simply doesn't back this up. How do warlords such as Angwar Sek or Guar who aren't Chaos Space Marines and who do not have the loyalty of Chaos Space Marines maintain their power? I would assert that they absolutely must have some kind of hierarchy in place on their worlds even if it is based around military power.


What you're reaching for here is something that is similar to the Imperium's Inquisition, yet wholly different.

The Inquisition spans all of the various factions of the Imperium, all of its borders. They are drawn from its most capable citizens and trained to fight in the shadows (mostly) against humanities greatest threats. Noone is beneath their scrutiney, noone is beyond their reach. The Inquisition is needed because the Imperium is based on rule of law, and when laws are broken, punishment is metted out accordingly. Some crimes are worse than others, some crimes are so bad that people can be hurt simply by knowing of them, this is why the Inquisition exsists. It seeks to protect those who cannot protect themselves because the Imperium is united as one despite all of the departments and factions and differences.

Chaos is not this. It is fractured, by its very nature the forces of Chaos cannot present a united front that seeks the betterment of its citizens because it has none. It has subjects and slaves that work towards the betterment of their masters who grow from every imaginable misdeed their followers perform. It does not seek to protect those who are weak, it preys on them. There's no need for an inquisiton when there are no laws to be broken besides, "Might makes right." The strong rule the weak through overt methods of suppresion and oppression. As was said earlier, if you think you can do better go ahead and overthrow the king, but if you come at the king you best not miss.

The individual generals or warlords may have their own heiracrhies in place to keep from being overthrown, but they pale in comparison to what the Inquisition is. They preform like a riot squad compared to the Inquisition's quiet assassin. It's like comparing a rent-a-cop to a CIA agent. The forces of Chaos lack the cohesion, and need, for a clandestine organization like the Imperium's Inquisition.

/rant (sorry if this doesn't make a bunch of sense, I'm writing this up at work and I have 3 minutes to push it out before quitting time.)


Thanks you! That's the kind of answer I was looking for, well reasoned, and thought out.

In the end I'll still run an inquisitor ret for my counts-as armies but this question was meant to help me have a better grasp on writing the fluff behind them.
   
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The cognitae are the anti inq in 40k, this is outright stated in the pariah book
   
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 Formosa wrote:
The cognitae are the anti inq in 40k, this is outright stated in the pariah book

The Cognitae have no wide-spanning authority, they are just a school dedicated to churning out crazy megalomaniacs who go around causing trouble. There is a subsect of the Inquisition that does the same, but better, so giving the Cognitae such distinction seems excessive. They are just a drop in the bucket of Inquisitorial problems.

Abnett always likes to pump up whoever or whatever he is writing to ridiculous extents.

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