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 spaceelf wrote:
Just wait until GW gives their rules a similar 'upgrade' There will be a picture of space marines shooting tyranids. Roll dice, remove models. Then there will be a picture with no Tyranids.

still better than current rules

This is FANTASTIC news!

It means that, in 18 months time, GW can proudly announce that "we're merging our two immensely popular Magazines, White Dwarf Weekly and Warhammer Monthly, into one brilliant magazine with a brand new name! ANDREX"

 legoburner wrote:
Got my copy today. WH Smiths still have it under the normal code for White Dwarf, so it was still £5.50 instead of £7.50. I dont really have anything to add except thank god I bought Wargames Illustrated to actually have some content to enjoy!

The magazine is shrink wrapped and tied in a paper seal to make it impossible to preview in the store (with good reason - I would have not bothered buying it!)

Did they even throw in a free poster to justify having it sealed?

Herzlos wrote:

 legoburner wrote:
Got my copy today. WH Smiths still have it under the normal code for White Dwarf, so it was still £5.50 instead of £7.50. I dont really have anything to add except thank god I bought Wargames Illustrated to actually have some content to enjoy!

The magazine is shrink wrapped and tied in a paper seal to make it impossible to preview in the store (with good reason - I would have not bothered buying it!)

Did they even throw in a free poster to justify having it sealed?

There are a few inconvenient fold out pages so that you can see images on A4 scale, just like the days of old... last month.

All things said, at least the magazine doesnt feel too cheap. When I first saw it I thought it would be a crappy catalogue style print to save them cash, but the print quality is decent and the paper heavy enough so it has that going for it at least.

They've had fold-out pages before (as has any other mag with fold out pages) without having to seal the magazine. So I'm assuming even they have wanted to keep it sealed to encourage the curious to buy. At least you didn't get ripped off the whole £7.50.

It's a pretty sad day when the only thing going for it is that the print/paper quality is decent.

So...all its really good for is expensive-ass toilet paper?

Now if only they had a page with Tom Kirby's face on it...*prepares bodily movement exit*

What news of the store finder? I'm on my hands and knees here begging any god that will listen, in the hope the store finder has finally been axed!!

Its in W:V, in the video. Paaaaages of it.

Shows the contempt and disregard GW have for the hobby and the people. literally an expensive magazine with pictures, and the new white dwarf is just a catologue that you pay for

Maybe management and Kirby are just running a you've been punked prank for the past 10 odd years on customers and they just cant end it

Hot damn, that Visions is pure trash. Am I the only one for cracked up laughing when watching the youtube review? Sorry for you guys who are subbed. Just wow.

Very disappointing to see what the magazine has become... I have fond memories of the old days where it actually had good advice and insight to how normal players built/modeled/painted/themed/played armies, how to scratch-build terrain, etc.

This is just outright trying to squeeze more money out of people for less content.

I give it until March. Seriously. I reckon the volume of subscriptions that will be cancelled this month will be huge. By March they'll try doing something different.

Dear lord, this looks appalling, why are Tyranids featured in the Visions "New releases" section, they were January's releases?

I figure my copy will arrive today or tomorrow, but if I don't like it in person I'm cancelling and buying the occasional WD Weekly. This genuinely makes me sad, the potential was there...

 redbristles wrote:
Dear lord, this looks appalling, why are Tyranids featured in the Visions "New releases" section, they were January's releases?

I figure my copy will arrive today or tomorrow, but if I don't like it in person I'm cancelling and buying the occasional WD Weekly. This genuinely makes me sad, the potential was there...

WDW has the job of promoting new releases, Visions can't as it appears at the start of the month, before most releases have been announced, making it even more redundant.

Additionally, it appears those hoping for an even further accelerated release schedule due to the weekly nature of WD are going to be disappointed, as it just looks like we'll just get the same volume of product, just spread over a few more weekends.

I took a look at a copy last night. Nothing but picks, and they were all paint schemes I've seen before, your generic Hive Fleet Leviathan and Behemoth colored Tyranids. Not worth the money.

 azreal13 wrote:

 redbristles wrote:
Dear lord, this looks appalling, why are Tyranids featured in the Visions "New releases" section, they were January's releases?

I figure my copy will arrive today or tomorrow, but if I don't like it in person I'm cancelling and buying the occasional WD Weekly. This genuinely makes me sad, the potential was there...

WDW has the job of promoting new releases, Visions can't as it appears at the start of the month, before most releases have been announced, making it even more redundant.

Additionally, it appears those hoping for an even further accelerated release schedule due to the weekly nature of WD are going to be disappointed, as it just looks like we'll just get the same volume of product, just spread over a few more weekends.

Yeah Visions just seems completely pointless, this is literally re-printing all the pictures from last month's WD, I can't believe they actually have the cheek to do this!

Thanks for posting! When GW announced the new WHV and WDW I didn't understand what the real difference would be (aside from availability). Looks like WHV is aimed at someone walking into a GW store for the first time: "Here are your models, paint, tools, oh yeah, you should get a subscription for WHV! It shows you painted miniatures, how to convert them, and a battle report!" Little does the unsuspecting noob know that all this information is freely available on the net, and in fact WDW is looking like the better buy.

Still really pissed off about this, I remember back in the day getting my monthly WDs and loving them, reading them from front to back, even articles that weren't really relevant to my armies because the content was so good.

The GW website is down: they're obviously removing all the product shots of models.

From tomorrow, if kids walk into a GW store and ask to see what the stuff they wanna buy looks like, they'll be told they have to pay £7.50 for Warhammer Visions to find out.

Could this be the assimilation of forge world?

It partially loads for me, but the front page is totally messed up. A few images and broken flash interaction.

All I can think is that Warhammer Visions is not the gaming magazine equivilent of GQ. Lot of style and zero substance. The first 70 or so pages are just images taken directly from the January issue of White Dwarf. First strike. Almost zero text, with the "battle report" giving zero details of the battle, except more tiny blurbs, and Blanchitsu having even LESS text that it previously did. Second Strike. No actual content beyond pretty pictures, with the except of the bit on painting tyranids and offering up different hive fleet color variations and details. Third Strike. Still has the listing of all the GW stores around the world, though. Need to know where to give them more money. Fourth Striker. VERY pretty book, but completely useless as a gaming magazine which is what I was subscribed for.
Meanwhile the first weekly White Dwarf wasn't actually that bad. It had content, only minimal "new releases" pages and even had UNIT RULES in it. On the negative side it will now cost nearly twice as much to buy each month and cannot show up in my mailbox. So the weekly is not bad, though fits into GW's make it all more expensive scheme. I might have considered the weekly if I could get a subscription for it, and no I don't want it on an e-reader. I want the mag itself. I especially don't want it on an ereader for the same exact price.

Having been a regular White Dwarf reader since around issue 15 or so I know that the mag today was not as good as it had been in its past, but I still found it entertaining and diverting so kept up my subscription.

Way more fail here than success. I will be contacting customer service at GW today to cancel my subscription because Warhammer visions is useless. Pretty, yes, but still useless.

Skriker

So this new magazine is basically what people were put off about with White Dwarf and they are charging more for it?

Good going GW.

narkuk wrote:
Yeah - not impressed - this seems to nail it:

That is an excellent review, thanks!

Seems the weekly publication is still decent (at least, about on par with what What Dwarf was in recent times, just much shorter due to being weekly). But the monthly Visions publication, the only one you can actually subscribe to... wow . That looks absolutely terrible. It's a copy/paste picture book with almost no formatting and almost no text.

I wish I could see a graph of white dwarf subscription cancellations after this is put out... this is why markets work, assuming people do cancel. It shows the company that their product is not what the consumers want and, if enough change their purchasing behavior, forces the company to adjust if they want to stay profitable.

It's quite incredulous that GW thought that product would be a good replacement for WD monthly.

You know what people want? Full A5 sized pages of models they can see online for free..

 Medium of Death wrote:
It's quite incredulous that GW thought that product would be a good replacement for WD monthly.

You know what people want? Full A5 sized pages of models they can see online for free..

I think its demonstrative of two things

1) The massive disconnect between management and customer
2) the attitude of "they'll buy what we make" rather than "let's make what they'll buy"

Well, now we know why it's called visions; it's all pictures.

Oh dear, but thank god for video reviews.

Can't believe anyone would think this was a good idea. The way GW is being run reminds me of The Producers - i.e. a big scam to write off tax losses or something.

Wasn't there a rumor a while back that GW would be releasing models based on Blanche's artwork?

This Warhammer Visions has a section that showcases exactly that, but without any new models. The models are well-done and look unique. I guess we could lay that rumor to rest.

Sent in my message to customer service and already have my refund. Guess I can put it to that 'script for Wargames Illustrated I've been putting off renewing, since that magazine actually has articles and information about gaming and not just a bunch of pictures. Hahahaha

Skriker