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 Seb wrote:

 McGibs wrote:
What do people think of deepstriking them with a termi-sorcerer and burning brand?

I'd say no.
Brand needs mobility (jump pack, bike, mount...), and that means no terminator armour. Furthermore, you sorcerer, moreso if you buy additionnal mastery levels, is bound to have a witchfire.

So go for both : DS a termi sorcerer with a witchfire, and flank (as tactical flanking, not special rule one) with a MoN biker lord with brand. Target saturation.

Brand has a 12" + 7" damage range which is decent range to burninate people but the question would be, why am I spending 115 points and an HQ slot when you could have a heldrake. I like Nurgle biker lords to have LC + PF so giving up an attack (and LC) for the brand kind of sucks. The advantage of the brand vs heldrake is that you can fire it from turn 1 and you don't have to worry about turning circles. So I would usually put it on somebody who is supporting and will never be a combat monster anyway e.g. a biker support sorc.

Brand really doesn't need mobility when you deep strike it right into the enemy line. My torrent soul grinder is proof of that.

I suppose the real problem with a sorc in termie armor is that, with his mere W2, you have even more incentive than usual to give him a sigil. If you do that, then you're spending an awful lot of points to give him slightly better armor and to deepstrike.

Not as big of a problem as a lord, but still.

If you are set on deep striking someone with the brand with the Oblits I would go either:

Option 1
Super budget, brings very little to the table
Lord, PA, Jump Pack, Burning Brand = 110

Option 2
Can tank plasmagun shots with a 3++ and pass off S8 and AP3 stuff with LOS. Could also get him a Power Axe and Melta Bombs.
Lord + MoT + Sigil +Brand + Jump Pack = 150

Oh, that's kind of clever, actually.

3 oblits show up with a AoBF lord with a jump pack out of deepstrike. Now your opponent has to ask the question of what is worse, three obliterators or a winged AoBF lord.

The best part is that you can influence this with nothing more than which model you put in the middle for deepstriking, and how you arrange the rest. With a 4++ on the lord, a 2+ on the oblits, and spreading LoS! around (because you can, because the 3 oblits are all equally close to the lord), you could have an absurd amount of survivability.

And this would pair well with a lot of other stuff as well. Your opponent NEEDS to handle the deepstrike threat, but if they do, now they're not shooting at the rest of your army barreling towards them.

I'm going to have to try this some time.

wtnind wrote:

 Seb wrote:

 McGibs wrote:
What do people think of deepstriking them with a termi-sorcerer and burning brand?

I'd say no.
Brand needs mobility (jump pack, bike, mount...), and that means no terminator armour. Furthermore, you sorcerer, moreso if you buy additionnal mastery levels, is bound to have a witchfire.

So go for both : DS a termi sorcerer with a witchfire, and flank (as tactical flanking, not special rule one) with a MoN biker lord with brand. Target saturation.

Brand has a 12" + 7" damage range which is decent range to burninate people but the question would be, why am I spending 115 points and an HQ slot when you could have a heldrake. I like Nurgle biker lords to have LC + PF so giving up an attack (and LC) for the brand kind of sucks. The advantage of the brand vs heldrake is that you can fire it from turn 1 and you don't have to worry about turning circles. So I would usually put it on somebody who is supporting and will never be a combat monster anyway e.g. a biker support sorc.

That's my first point : you're bound to roll a witchfire with your sorcerer, so the brand seems like an (expansive) waste.

And if you're going for a CC MoN terminator lord, I'd get Typhus.


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 Ailaros wrote:
Oh, that's kind of clever, actually.

3 oblits show up with a AoBF lord with a jump pack out of deepstrike. Now your opponent has to ask the question of what is worse, three obliterators or a winged AoBF lord.

The best part is that you can influence this with nothing more than which model you put in the middle for deepstriking, and how you arrange the rest. With a 4++ on the lord, a 2+ on the oblits, and spreading LoS! around (because you can, because the 3 oblits are all equally close to the lord), you could have an absurd amount of survivability.

And this would pair well with a lot of other stuff as well. Your opponent NEEDS to handle the deepstrike threat, but if they do, now they're not shooting at the rest of your army barreling towards them.

I'm going to have to try this some time.

The best point is : every choice is bad for your opponent. You can't let anything in this 'formation' live.