1. Shooting around a corner and 2. having a posable model.

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**Happyjew**

LUTNIT wrote:
Naw wrote:
Does not the written rule say it is from the tip of the barrel?

The rule says "assume all hull-mounted weapons can swivel horizontally up to 45'."
It doesn't say if the 45' arc is taken from the end of the barrel or the base.
The diagram of a Leman Russ shows the 45' arc being taken from the base of the barrel (hull lascannon in this case). I believe the diagram in 5th was a vindicator with the arc taken from the tip. For some reason I thought the vindicator diagram was in the 6th ed rule book but it's from 5th.

The 5th ed book used a Vindicator for hull-mount. It also uses the base of the barrel, not the tip. 4th edition was a Basilisk, and also used the barrel base.

**Kommissar Kel**

LUTNIT wrote:
Naw wrote:
Does not the written rule say it is from the tip of the barrel?

The rule says "assume all hull-mounted weapons can swivel horizontally up to 45'."
It doesn't say if the 45' arc is taken from the tip of the barrel or the base of the barrel.
The diagram of a Leman Russ shows the 45' arc being taken from the base of the barrel (hull lascannon in this case). I believe the diagram in 5th was a vindicator with the arc taken from the tip. For some reason I thought the vindicator diagram was in the 6th ed rule book but it's from 5th.

The Leman Russ isn't even a diagram of a hull mount that cannot move on its own, it is just a pretty picture. Although it does correctly illustrate close to the actual firing arc of the pose-able gun that happens to be at that location of that model.

**LUTNIT**

Kommissar Kel wrote:
The Leman Russ isn't even a diagram of a hull mount that cannot move on its own, it is just a pretty picture. Although it does correctly illustrate close to the actual firing arc of the pose-able gun that happens to be at that location of that model.

Yeah, there is no diagram in the rule book to show a fixed hull weapon and how it's LoS is supposed to work. All we have is a line saying to assume it can see 45' horizontally. I would assume the base of the barrel and not the tip but there is nothing to support that now I guess.