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If you like fluff - DA would be my choice. The army has some dark history and a lot of people seem to tease them for it but it's pretty grim dark. Also, the models are cool because you've got a monastery chapter that follows a knight code.
If you're more of a competitive player then (currently) the choice would be IF as they are all around pretty solid and have a good supplement which makes a bolter effectively twin linked.

 goblinking201 wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Do you want to play Loyalists or Traitors?
Fists for the former, DA for the latter.

What do you mean traitors?

Dark Angels put their own need for secrecy over their duty to the Imperium. Quite a few stories of them abandoning or attacking other Imperial forces when so much as a rumor of the "Fallen" shows up, leaving other Imperial forces and worlds in the lurch.

DA are no more traitors then BA are. They just have a deep dark secret that cannot get out less the entire chapter be excommunicated.

It's like you have a spouse that you totally love and the spouse goes on vacation for a bit and you almost hit it off with with this 9/10 hottie. You're about to break some vows when you come through your haze and call it off before any mistake can take place. You know that if the truth goes out (remember you didn't do anything!), your spouse would dump you and do everything in his/her power to destroy you. So you do the only sane and rational thing to do in that situation; you bury the 9/10 in an unmarked grave and proceed to murder everyone that saw you together and burn any and every evidence.

So not heretics. Just misunderstood.

Read the old novel Space Marine by Ian Watson and then Angels of Darkness/Ravenwing by Gav Thorpe and then take your pick.

Imperial Fist yellow is somewhat countered by Dark Angels Green, Bone and Black. Both should present good painting opportunities.

Fluff wise, Dark Angels have a much richer back ground and whilst some people laugh/mock it, it is interesting.

BlackTemplar1 wrote:If your looking for a chapter who fights like zealots to redeem themselves in their eyes and the emperors, go dark angels. If your looking for a chapter who fight to the last, will never surrender, who value brotherhood above all else, go Imperial fists. I prefer Imperial Fists, just because I love all of their successor chapters.

The latter values resonate more with my beliefs and values in life so that's a gigantic plus.

MajorWesJanson wrote:Do you want to play Loyalists or Traitors?
Fists for the former, DA for the latter.

Considering my 4-5k of Death Guard including a Titan, I think the Emperor deserves some love from the heart, rather than a plague knife for once

conker249 wrote:I love my Imperial fists, just hate painting yellow, so many layers.., but I am getting better at it. I just started a ravenwing bike army. so why not both If you want a general army with lots of flexability, Imperial fists can do just about everything and every build. their chapter tactic is "always on" Also, Lysander is a beast in combat. Not learned much on how to play DA yet. but my vote is Imperial Fists

I am actually good with Yellow as I painted 1 marine complete using yellow to test the waters and I really don't mind it. Lysander is a massive beast indeed, I actually bought him ( my marines are unpainted but assembled, this thread was to finally decide on colors ) and he personally ran straight through 3 Tyranid warriors, beat a Hive Tyrant's skull in, then was finally killed off by a Exocrines stomp. I was pretty proud of that little slugger

Vaktathi wrote:Dark Angels are a specialist force. If you want to run bikes and/or termi's and focus heavily on them, go with the Dark Angels.

If yo want to run a more generalist force, or especially if you want to run Tac/Dev heavy, go with the Imperial Fists.

Done and done, Generalist is more my playstyle.

throwoff wrote:Paint up your own chapter then you can always switch between the two as a sucessor.

I currently run my marines as an Imperial fists army but am building up bikes to also be able to run as a Scars successor.

Why anyone would copy a GW chapter exactly is beyond me.

Honestly it's purely because I cannot get into an army that much if they do not relate to me in some way or at the very least capture my imagination. Otherwise it just feels like moving plastic on a board. I get completely immersed in games when their background captures me.. all the heart stopping desperate rolls, unforseen events... and thats all the fun for me

TheAdversary wrote:I prefer Dark Angels, they feel more grimdark to me; they take things like interrogation and redemption seriously.
Also white robes over dark green armor just looks awesome.

But some of the successors of the Imperial Fists are great too.
Tough call.

This right here was the main reason I as in split minds ... Purely because the Dark Angels style and general Aura is out standing and walk on the brink of a Grim Reaper style which is awesome.


And so it is decided guys I will keep them Imperial Fists as originally planned.

Thanks for all your input and opinions it has finally sealed the deal after months of wondering.





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Inkubas wrote:If you like fluff - DA would be my choice. The army has some dark history and a lot of people seem to tease them for it but it's pretty grim dark. Also, the models are cool because you've got a monastery chapter that follows a knight code.
If you're more of a competitive player then (currently) the choice would be IF as they are all around pretty solid and have a good supplement which makes a bolter effectively twin linked.

Their history is awesome I picked up the DA codex on the new release purely to read their background. Honestly never saw that coming, I especially love Cypher's part.

Smirrors wrote:Read the old novel Space Marine by Ian Watson and then Angels of Darkness/Ravenwing by Gav Thorpe and then take your pick.

Imperial Fist yellow is somewhat countered by Dark Angels Green, Bone and Black. Both should present good painting opportunities.

Fluff wise, Dark Angels have a much richer back ground and whilst some people laugh/mock it, it is interesting.

They do have a very interesting background indeed. I am reading Seventh Retribution ( FIsts ) at the moment and the more I get into it the more it is swaying me.

THanks again guys !