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Damn I had been using them with interceptor. Why would they nerf them and not sabre platforms? Sabre platforms are still quite ridiculous.

 Peregrine wrote:

new04db wrote:
There is always the FW hydra emplacement, (correct me if i am wrong with theses stats) at 50 points each, immobile, sky fire, intercept, AV 11 all round, 2 HP

It does not have interceptor anymore. That was just a temporary thing, likely due to the book being sent off for printing based on early speculation about the Hydra getting interceptor before GW made the 6th edition update FAQs final. It has since been reprinted with the previous codex Hydra guns. And I would expect it to be updated again with the current codex Hydra guns, as it is clearly meant to be the same weapon. Taking advantage of a temporary lack of an update is kind of TFG behavior.

Also, they're only AV 10, which makes them very easy to destroy. They're cheap for a reason.

Well in that case, I would say the quad gun with a defense line works better than a hydra, Ok you can only take one and it cost more (100pts) than a single hydra (70pts), but it can take out ground troops as well, meaning if the other player has no flyers you have not spent 70 x n (n=1-3) on specialist units, in addition the defense wall benefits other units, helpful if you are going to have some static units at back field. and it doesn't take up a unit slot.

 Hardrockfreak wrote:
Damn I had been using them with interceptor. Why would they nerf them and not sabre platforms? Sabre platforms are still quite ridiculous.

Because someone in GW clearly has it out for the Hydra.


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new04db wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:

new04db wrote:
There is always the FW hydra emplacement, (correct me if i am wrong with theses stats) at 50 points each, immobile, sky fire, intercept, AV 11 all round, 2 HP

It does not have interceptor anymore. That was just a temporary thing, likely due to the book being sent off for printing based on early speculation about the Hydra getting interceptor before GW made the 6th edition update FAQs final. It has since been reprinted with the previous codex Hydra guns. And I would expect it to be updated again with the current codex Hydra guns, as it is clearly meant to be the same weapon. Taking advantage of a temporary lack of an update is kind of TFG behavior.

Also, they're only AV 10, which makes them very easy to destroy. They're cheap for a reason.

Well in that case, I would say the quad gun with a defense line works better than a hydra, Ok you can only take one and it cost more (100pts) than a single hydra (70pts), but it can take out ground troops as well, meaning if the other player has no flyers you have not spent 70 x n (n=1-3) on specialist units, in addition the defense wall benefits other units, helpful if you are going to have some static units at back field. and it doesn't take up a unit slot.

There are ways to get more than one.

The strong point for example.

Although I do think that both the HWS and Vendetta are good comparisons to the Hydra, we maybe should look towards the bigger picture. If a Hydra is the only skyfire unit the guard army any reasonable player would try and remove it before their flyer comes on, failing that they would use the flyer itself to get rid of it. It's quite a high priority target before it even has a chance to do its job.

It also has to compete in the heavy support catagory, which let's face it unless you're playing foot horde guard is going to be pretty tight for space.

Personally in 1000pt games I would be tempted by a mix of 2 Hydras and 1 Vendetta. Why pick one when you can take both?

 Hardrockfreak wrote:
Why would they nerf them and not sabre platforms?

Probably because the Hydra was never intended to be anything other than a direct copy of the codex version, while the Sabre platforms are a FW unit with their own independent rules. Most likely what happened is that early in writing the 6th edition update FAQ for the IG codex the Hydra did have interceptor, so FW sent IA:Aeronautica off to be printed with a Hydra platform that had interceptor as well. Then GW decided not to give the Hydra interceptor after all, but the books were already printed and it was too late to change the platform's rules. In the next book, IA1, the Hydra platform was reprinted without interceptor to mirror the codex version.

In short: most likely just some confusion around the edition change that was quickly resolved.