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Ill leave this here as food for thought

With the new "Possession" power from Maelefic tree in 7th Edition, Pink horrors can be sacrificed to become things like Bloodthirsters.

I made a list earlier, just for giggles that was barely 2k points. Pertaining to 8 Heralds accompanied by Fateweaver with 1 herald toting the Portaglyph

Fateweaver (300)
4 Heralds of Tzeentch (ML3) (1 Portaglyph) (410)
4 Troop Choices of 16 Pink Horrors (576)
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Second FOC

4 Heralds of Tzeentch (ML3) 380
2 Troop Choices of 16 Pink Horrors (288)

Total comes to 1954 points

Total Mastery Levels equals 46 which means you can cast Possession 15 times. Since you have 8 Heralds and 6 squads of Pink Horrors all capable of Casting this, you can effectively summon 14 Bloodthirsters in one turn (If luck permits)

This is complete theory ofc, they probably thought about this (OH GOD HOPEFULLY) and put a limitation on the amount of Conjurations you can manifest per turn. But if this does end up being possible in the near future, I know I'll be getting myself a few more BTs lol

GoliothOnline wrote:
Ill leave this here as food for thought

With the new "Possession" power from Maelefic tree in 7th Edition, Pink horrors can be sacrificed to become things like Bloodthirsters.

I made a list earlier, just for giggles that was barely 2k points. Pertaining to 8 Heralds accompanied by Fateweaver with 1 herald toting the Portaglyph

Fateweaver (300)
4 Heralds of Tzeentch (ML3) (1 Portaglyph) (410)
4 Troop Choices of 16 Pink Horrors (576)
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Second FOC

4 Heralds of Tzeentch (ML3) 380
2 Troop Choices of 16 Pink Horrors (288)

Total comes to 1954 points

Total Mastery Levels equals 46 which means you can cast Possession 15 times. Since you have 8 Heralds and 6 squads of Pink Horrors all capable of Casting this, you can effectively summon 14 Bloodthirsters in one turn (If luck permits)

This is complete theory ofc, they probably thought about this (OH GOD HOPEFULLY) and put a limitation on the amount of Conjurations you can manifest per turn. But if this does end up being possible in the near future, I know I'll be getting myself a few more BTs lol

As far as we know spells are not limited to one casting a turn, simply because there is a rule specifically that states a spell cannot affect a unit twice with the same buff unless it says so. So yes.

What we don't know is can Summoned Psykers cast spells on the turn they arrive?
Do new psykers add to the Warp Charge pool the turn that they arrive?
What units have affinity for which spells?

Also, all you really need to get the thing going is 4 and 6, you could even just go with a normal buffed Lord of Change that will be cheaper. Remember Lords of Change can become Possessed by Lords of Change. So it's like instant regenerate wounds or a Lord of Change could become possessed by a Bloodthirster, which makes no sense. That's the spell as written so far that we've seen.

6 Squads of 16 Pink Horrors = 18
4 Level 3 Heralds = 12
1 Lord of Change Level 3 = 3
1 Portaglyph - 1 (with Pink Horrors)

34 Warp Charge + D6

You would have 11 Chances to Summon more Pink Horrors everyone gets this for free if you specialize daemonlogy.
You have 21 Rolls on the Daemonlogy Tree it's better though to get Sacrifice as often as possible though as that nets you a level 2 Psyker and it only costs 1 Warp Charge and gives you 12 more rolls on the Daemonlogy tree to get sacrifice.

 Celtic Strike wrote:

Eldard
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ML 4 not 3

GoliothOnline wrote:

With the new "Possession" power from Maelefic tree in 7th Edition, Pink horrors can be sacrificed to become things like Bloodthirsters.

Has it been said anywhere that any race can take a roll on any table now?

I believe permission restrictions still apply and it says right in the codex that Pink Horrors only generate powers from the Discipline of Change.

With the way powers work in 7th ED from hints people are dropping, the way you generate powers depends on how many Warp Charges are in your current pool at the begining of the Psychic Phase.

As for Pink Horrors, who knows. Currently yes they are restricted to generating from the Discipline of change, but from what we're all gathering the new BRB powers will be accessible to everyone. Don't take my word for it. That is just what people are assuming

There's no assuming it outright states that Pink Horrors can summon Heralds which infer that they do indeed roll on the Malefic power table.

Hollismason wrote:
There's no assuming it outright states that Pink Horrors can summon Heralds which infer that they do indeed roll on the Malefic power table.

^ Well, there you have it lol

Its probably still a random roll for the power so there is no guarantee you will even get possession. With that many psykers its likely one or two will get it but probably not more than that.

Yes it is still random,but honestly with 4 Squads @ML , 4 Heralds @ ML, and Level 3, that's 19 rolls. Likely hood is high, and the only powers that are like kind of "meh" are the shooting powers.

As been stated everyone gets summoning if you specialize. The only way Pink Horrors get to get Sacrifice is to roll on the chart because they are only level 1.

Yes for Mephiston ml 3?

It would make sense that Deamons could use the two Deamonology powers right? Why wouldn't they. There may be restrictions on which type of deamon you could summon depending on your God alignment.

Aren't all Farseers ML 3 as well? In addition, the named Farseer from Imperial Armor is also ML 3.

Yes all Generic Farseers are ML 3 and Eldrad is ML 4.


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Not to mention that with farseer council you have 2 farseers and 10 warlocks generating 1d6 + 16 warp charges every turn.

We will need to see which Psykers even have access to the tree first.

Somehow I doubt Eldar would have access to it at all being that Slaanesh kinda wants their souls, and Nurgle kinda stole their demi-god as a house wife.

GoliothOnline wrote:
We will need to see which Psykers even have access to the tree first.

Somehow I doubt Eldar would have access to it at all being that Slaanesh kinda wants their souls, and Nurgle kinda stole their demi-god as a house wife.

Demi-god? She's a full fledged god known as the 'Mother of the Eldar Race'

Though they still want her back, Nurgle is still a far better choice for her then Slaanesh... At least he lets her heal the diseases he brings.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

GoliothOnline wrote:
We will need to see which Psykers even have access to the tree first.

Somehow I doubt Eldar would have access to it at all being that Slaanesh kinda wants their souls, and Nurgle kinda stole their demi-god as a house wife.

Demi-god? She's a full fledged god known as the 'Mother of the Eldar Race'

Though they still want her back, Nurgle is still a far better choice for her then Slaanesh... At least he lets her heal the diseases he brings.

I know that FB and 40k are long separated as universes, but anyone who's read on the everqueen knows that Isha is pretty badass for the single nicest divine being in either setting.

Freeing Isha to walk the materium once more would do much to reverse the Eldar's fortunes.

GoliothOnline wrote:
Ill leave this here as food for thought

With the new "Possession" power from Maelefic tree in 7th Edition, Pink horrors can be sacrificed to become things like Bloodthirsters.

I made a list earlier, just for giggles that was barely 2k points. Pertaining to 8 Heralds accompanied by Fateweaver with 1 herald toting the Portaglyph

Fateweaver (300)
4 Heralds of Tzeentch (ML3) (1 Portaglyph) (410)
4 Troop Choices of 16 Pink Horrors (576)
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Second FOC

4 Heralds of Tzeentch (ML3) 380
2 Troop Choices of 16 Pink Horrors (288)

Total comes to 1954 points

Total Mastery Levels equals 46 which means you can cast Possession 15 times. Since you have 8 Heralds and 6 squads of Pink Horrors all capable of Casting this, you can effectively summon 14 Bloodthirsters in one turn (If luck permits)

This is complete theory ofc, they probably thought about this (OH GOD HOPEFULLY) and put a limitation on the amount of Conjurations you can manifest per turn. But if this does end up being possible in the near future, I know I'll be getting myself a few more BTs lol

At least wait for the new rules to come out before you try to break them.

Eldrad
Farseer
20 Warlocks

Allies 5 Spiritseers
10 warlocks

Warp charge: 47

 Celtic Strike wrote:
Eldrad
Farseer
20 Warlocks

Allies 5 Spiritseers
10 warlocks

Warp charge: 47

2 problems. 1, Iyanden cannot ally with Eldar (yet). 2, allied detachment cannot take Warlocks.

Of course this might change with Unbound, but who knows.

Farseers are level 3.