Is the chaos black spray paint worth getting?

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**Todosi**

tomcat31 wrote:
Todosi wrote:
GW's black spray is NOT primer. Not now, not ever. It is simply black spray paint. It has NOT been specifically formulated for miniatures in any way. It is black spray paint. It has no additional adhesion or shrinking properties, it is black spray paint. As a matter of fact, Krylon used to be their supplier, back when their quality control was decent.

It is overpriced black spray paint. If you want something of equal quality the Home Depot brand .99 cent Quik Color spray paint is nearly the same.

For my two cents, Krylon primers are the way to go. Rustoleum isn't bad, but goes on a little thicker. Both are much cheaper and actual primers, not...black spray paint.

Erm... I'm afraid you're wrong here dude. I'm a fully qualified automotive spray painter, so I think I should know the difference between paint and primer. Try spraying two minis. one with gw primer and one with cheap black spray paint (I have tried this). Once dry handle both quite roughly. The gw spray will remain on the model, the cheap spray will quickly start to wear off.

Yes gw's products are more expensive, and cheaper alternatives are available. However, cheap spray paint will not give satisfactory results in the long term.

Apologies for any offence caused.

No offence called, but I am going to ask you to back up what you say. As I know for a fact that before the current supplier, GW black spray was supplied by Krylon and was NOT a primer. So how does one tell the difference between a paint and primer chemically? I have tried the test you suggest too on both plastic and metal models and neither GW black nor Quikcolor held up well at all on metal and both did very well on plastic.

So what steps can one take to ascertain whether we are using spray paint or a true primer?

**spacewolf407**

I swear by Duplicolor black sandable primer. Works well in high humidity climates such as Florida where I live.