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Here's a thing...

Although you lose attacks for replacing them with ranged weapons, nowhere does it say that the bonus attack for two DSCs are included in it's profile, so does it technically have 5A base?

 azreal13 wrote:
Here's a thing...

Although you lose attacks for replacing them with ranged weapons, nowhere does it say that the bonus attack for two DSCs are included in it's profile, so does it technically have 5A base?

I would say RAW, yes it has 5 Attacks but RAI (as I play it), no only the 4 Attacks. It would be the first time that an amount of Attacks were reduced by 2 when discarding a single close combat weapon. Though I think it's also quite unique that you'll lose an Attack when the last close combat weapon is removed. If a Dreadnought lost it's single Dreadnought close combat weapon it wouldn't lose an Attack...

It's tricky huh? Because nearly every other walker with a similar set up has their primary attacks characteristic then another in brackets, or some other indication what the base attacks characteristic is, so is this an oversight or deliberate design.

Soul Grinders have 4 attacks base with one CCW, which doesn't mean anything in reality, but is an analogous unit in a lot of ways.

I've now been emailing and calling Forgeworld and here's some answers (these are not quotes from the emails):

Additional attack of having two Siege Claws is included in the profile.

Decimator doesn't get the specific bonuses of Daemons of X, it only counts as (Using this wording myself as it really is the straight forward way of explaining it) in regards to the rest of the Chaos Daemons codex.

A Blood Slaughterer can't fire it's Impaler on Overwatch but a victim dragged into base to base contact can.

A Blood Slaughterer can fire at and drag a victim into base to base contact the turn it deep strikes in, effectively charging the turn it deep strikes.

You can get a single quote here:
"We will be releasing an Imperial Armour book covering our Chaos models later in the year, at this moment we don't have a confirmed date we can provide."

I like running a single Decimator in my walker list. He deepstrikes in with a pack of helbrutes while a Contemptor walks up the board with some helcult dreads. That much AV can overwhelm an opponent that doesn't splurge on the anti-tank weapons.